Apple is rotten too

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  • catta12
    Established Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 250
    • Reno, NV
    • BTS20R

    #1

    Apple is rotten too

    I do not have an iPhone. I do not have iTunes or Safari installed, nor have I ever. I do have QuickTime. Apparently Apple is using QuickTime as the gateway software to load my computer with iCrap. The screen shot is of the default settings that Apple wants me to "update" every couple of days. I HAD a neutral opinion of Apple, but I think it just dropped if this is how they are moving forward. I know I can ignore the updates from the file system, but loading in software that is not already installed is sneaky and misleading, especially for those who just click 'OK' without reading what is being updated.
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    If you can read this you assembled wrong.


    Alan
  • headhunter636
    Established Member
    • Jul 2004
    • 161
    • Federal Way, WA
    • Ryobi BT 3000

    #2
    Apple seems to use anything they have as a software gateway to get more software onto your computer. I think it is sneaky business, especially for those like you mentioned that just click Ok.
    Dave

    BT3000

    "98% of all statistics are made up"

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    • Ed62
      The Full Monte
      • Oct 2006
      • 6021
      • NW Indiana
      • BT3K

      #3
      I'm running iTunes, and I get offers to download Safari and other things. It doesn't bother me. But it's just not a good idea to click "OK" without knowing what it's all about.

      Ed
      Do you know about kickback? Ray has a good writeup here... https://www.sawdustzone.org/articles...mare-explained

      For a kickback demonstration video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/910584...demonstration/

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      • BearPipes-1
        Established Member
        • May 2006
        • 125
        • Silicon Valley, CA
        • Ryobi BT3100

        #4
        Clicking "OK" without knowing what you're responding to is a good way to get infected with software you don't want.

        I think Alan alluded to this, but more specifically for those suffering from this problem, you can go to the Tools menu in the Apple Software Update tool and choose "Ignore Selected Updates" ... this will stop the nagging until Apple has a new version to offer you.
        Don't just say no to kickback.

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        • herb fellows
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2007
          • 1867
          • New York City
          • bt3100

          #5
          The point is, it shouldn't be checked off so that you have to give a negative response to not get it.
          This is the same as getting a magazine you didn't order and having them tell you that if you don't cancel it, they will bill you. Since when is the onus on me to undo something I didn't sign on for in the first place?
          What's next, the supermarket putting things in your cart so you have to take them out? Where does this nonsense end?

          This really is a sleazy business practice, and because 'everybody is doing it', it's become accepted, which is a crock of you know what!
          You don't need a parachute to skydive, you only need a parachute to skydive twice.

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          • leehljp
            The Full Monte
            • Dec 2002
            • 8795
            • Tunica, MS
            • BT3000/3100

            #6
            It is almost exactly like MS's Auto Update - you get a choice with the Apple's and MS's. But the way the choice is made is usually on the side of the MFG. That is not right. I am primarily a Mac user, but this type of Auto Do is not right. IMO, the first time a situation like this arises, the end user should be given the "Preference" to set how updates will be managed.

            With the above said - there is a check box under "preferences" that allows you to do it totally manually, or do it on a regular occasion.

            Last year, I spent a couple of hours on a co-worker's home computer (Vista) trying to figure out why his MS Office was not working. Finally I figured out that one of the pop-up "updates" offered to update (actually upgrade) his older installed office with the most recent version of MS Office, which was a 60 day free trial. The co-worker thought it was an update and didn't know the difference, so he clicked OK. And 60 days later, the free trial ran out!

            Those dang Update/Upgrade offers are a pain, both manually and auto.

            Many QT users jumped on Apple about this several months ago, giving them flack over the point you are making. Make it known to them your dislike!
            Last edited by leehljp; 09-23-2009, 07:34 PM.
            Hank Lee

            Experience is what you get when you don't get what you wanted!

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            • Kristofor
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2004
              • 1331
              • Twin Cities, MN
              • Jet JTAS10 Cabinet Saw

              #7
              Also, if you did allow it to install iTunes at some point you probably want to remove it or upgrade it now. There is an exploit in iTunes which can allow unathorized code execution on both PC and Mac that was just fixed recently.

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              • cabinetman
                Gone but not Forgotten RIP
                • Jun 2006
                • 15216
                • So. Florida
                • Delta

                #8
                I get that message also. Makes me wonder why I need to upgrade something I don't have.
                .

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                • germdoc
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 3567
                  • Omaha, NE
                  • BT3000--the gray ghost

                  #9
                  Why fight it? Just give in and let the Apple juice flow into your body...
                  Jeff


                  “Doctors are men who prescribe medicines of which they know little, to cure diseases of which they know less, in human beings of whom they know nothing”--Voltaire

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