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  • crokett
    The Full Monte
    • Jan 2003
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    • Mebane, NC, USA.
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    #1

    I Gotta Hand It to Apple

    I installed iTunes on my inlaws' laptop to get my MIL's new iPod working. I plugged in the iPod and iTunes told me it was formatted for Mac and I needed to click 'Restore' to set it up for a PC. So I did. Then it told me the iPod needed a FW update and to click ok to get the update. So I did. Then after a while it asked me if I wanted to auto sync her songs to it. I said yes and it is now busy syncing her songs.
    David

    The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.
  • Rich P
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    • Apr 2003
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    #2
    Wake me when you arrive...
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    • cabinetman
      Gone but not Forgotten RIP
      • Jun 2006
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      #3
      That's what LOML does.
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      • leehljp
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        • Dec 2002
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        • Tunica, MS
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        #4
        Nothing unusual about that. What were you expecting?
        Last edited by leehljp; 09-21-2009, 04:59 AM.
        Hank Lee

        Experience is what you get when you don't get what you wanted!

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        • jussi
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          • Jan 2007
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          #5
          When you run a company like a dictatorship everything runs great. But just don't expect too much variation. Just as google
          I reject your reality and substitute my own.

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          • leehljp
            The Full Monte
            • Dec 2002
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            • Tunica, MS
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            #6
            Originally posted by jussi
            When you run a company like a dictatorship everything runs great.
            Well what happened at MS?
            Hank Lee

            Experience is what you get when you don't get what you wanted!

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            • crokett
              The Full Monte
              • Jan 2003
              • 10627
              • Mebane, NC, USA.
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              #7
              Originally posted by leehljp
              Nothing unusual about that. What were you expecting?


              Dunno. Haven't used any Apple products before. When it said I had to do the FW update, for one thing I was expecting I would have to go download the FW and update it myself. I did set it up to automatically sync for her. Figured as she added music she wouldn't have to worry about it later. This week I will show her what a play list is.
              David

              The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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              • radhak
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                • Apr 2006
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                • Miramar, FL
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                #8
                Originally posted by crokett
                I installed iTunes on my inlaws' laptop to get my MIL's new iPod working. I plugged in the iPod and iTunes told me it was formatted for Mac and I needed to click 'Restore' to set it up for a PC. So I did. Then it told me the iPod needed a FW update and to click ok to get the update. So I did. Then after a while it asked me if I wanted to auto sync her songs to it. I said yes and it is now busy syncing her songs.
                I have been using Apple products for 6 years now, and I still have these 'moments of bliss' when things work not only work as you want them to, but sometimes even better - almost like it thinks for you! Btw, a tiny (nice) quirk I noticed - if you go from a Mac to Wintel, it tells you it'd wipe out and start again; but if you reverse that step (ie, once synched with a wintel, you attach it to a Mac), it takes it easy, and allows you to co-exist.

                Originally posted by jussi
                When you run a company like a dictatorship everything runs great. But just don't expect too much variation. Just as google
                In this particular case, variation (and 'democracy') might be over-rated - by much. Wintel today is better than before, but it still is a free for all with uncertain results. Funny thing is - they have never managed their upgrades consistently : Win 98 was okay, Win ME bombed, Win2000 was better, XP was even better, Vista an embarrassment. I look forward to Win 7 being truly good. Similarly with their other software.

                On the other hand, Apple has always moved onward and upward. The latest iTunes (9.0) is really neat.

                I think personalities at the head speak : Jobs is ornery and a-retentive (putting it mildly), but once he is gone, dunno where they'd end up.
                It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
                - Aristotle

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                • pierhogunn2
                  Established Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 134

                  #9
                  I think for one, apple has tried to focus on the customer experience. MS let the other people worry about the customer experience.

                  If swmbo hadn't needed windows for work, I would have upgraded her into a macbook

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                  • leehljp
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                    • Dec 2002
                    • 8694
                    • Tunica, MS
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by pierhogunn2
                    I think for one, apple has tried to focus on the customer experience. MS let the other people worry about the customer experience.

                    If swmbo hadn't needed windows for work, I would have upgraded her into a macbook
                    I run XP on my 3 1/2 year old laptop. It runs faster on this Mac than XP does on my 4 year old ThinkPad that I gave to my oldest daughter recently. The only software added to it was MS Office. My youngest daughter installed XP on her newly purchased MacBook last month.

                    I get comments regularly that the XP on my Mac runs Excel faster than on their PC.
                    Hank Lee

                    Experience is what you get when you don't get what you wanted!

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                    • Kristofor
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                      • Jul 2004
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by leehljp
                      I run XP on my 3 1/2 year old laptop. It runs faster on this Mac than XP does on my 4 year old ThinkPad that I gave to my oldest daughter recently. The only software added to it was MS Office.

                      I get comments regularly that the XP on my Mac runs Excel faster than on their PC.
                      See the section in BOLD for the reason...

                      Your Mac is almost certainly slower at a hardware component level than a similarly priced PC, but you're running a nice clean windows environment. Of course you can use parallels or boot camp for OSX when you don't need/want to be in windows which is something most PC users cannot do...

                      New Windows PCs come with tons of JUNK installed which is never needed by most users. A lot of that is due to marketing agreements with the hardware manufacturers, but there's also the anti-trust restrictions that prevent MS from limiting what can be installed (at least so say the EU courts).

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                      • Ed62
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                        • Oct 2006
                        • 6021
                        • NW Indiana
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                        #12
                        If Apple would give new users a few months to see if they liked it before finalizing the deal, I think I'd give it a whirl. Unfortunately, I never used a Mac, so I'll have to stick with something I'm halfway familiar with.

                        Ed
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                        • JoeyGee
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ed62
                          If Apple would give new users a few months to see if they liked it before finalizing the deal, I think I'd give it a whirl. Unfortunately, I never used a Mac, so I'll have to stick with something I'm halfway familiar with.

                          Ed
                          I used my sisters new Mac Book Pro for about 10 minutes and I was hooked. I am a IT guy specializing in Windows, but my next purchase will bring me to the dark side.
                          Joe

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                          • gsmittle
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by JoeyGee
                            I used my sisters new Mac Book Pro for about 10 minutes and I was hooked. I am a IT guy specializing in Windows, but my next purchase will bring me to the dark side.
                            Actually Joey, it's more like the brushed-aluminum side…

                            I've been a Mac fanboy since 1986. And yes, I've used Windows. Compared to the OSX interface, Windows seems drawn with crayon.

                            g.
                            Smit

                            "Be excellent to each other."
                            Bill & Ted

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                            • leehljp
                              The Full Monte
                              • Dec 2002
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                              • Tunica, MS
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                              #15
                              Being a Windows and a Mac user - the NUMBER ONE reason that I detested XP and previous versions of Windows: The Screen Type. It hurts my eyes to look at that ragged type - whether it is 10 minutes or 2 hours. My organization has proprietary software forms that require me to use Windows. Most of the forms take at least an hour to fill out and I do this regularly. It just hurts my eyes looking at those screen fonts. It is kinda like reading the old dot matrix print in regular mode.

                              No, it is not that I like "Eye Candy frivolity", but it is the blocky letters of XP and earlier that "I don't like" - because it is just hard to read. Apple has had smooth letters on screen that is more like newspaper print or true typewriter print - since I can remember. Less headaches from screen type with the Macs basic screen rendering.

                              That is the starting point!
                              Hank Lee

                              Experience is what you get when you don't get what you wanted!

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