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  • crokett
    The Full Monte
    • Jan 2003
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    • Mebane, NC, USA.
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    #16
    When I say flying wing I mean the Northrup bomber. The Vulcan and the first link in Mr Bill's post both have a fuselage. The second actually has 2 fuselages.
    David

    The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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    • Wood_workur
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2005
      • 1914
      • Ohio
      • Ryobi bt3100-1

      #17
      Originally posted by Russianwolf
      I bet it would break at the point that it's attached to the straps.
      This.


      I think what you meant to ask is where they would break if they were evenly loaded? The tips are not designed to handle the same loads as the root of the wings because they don't produce the same lift, and don't have to support anywhere near as much.
      Alex

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      • chopnhack
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        • Oct 2006
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        #18
        I think i saw what your talking about, it was part of a demonstration of the safety of I believe the 747's and it was a long time ago
        Originally posted by parnelli
        Years ago PBS did a several part show on a Boeing being designed and tested....maybe the 767?

        If you can find it, there was a test where they pull upwards on the wing tips until the wings break...It was VERY far- IIRC it was starting to look like a U shape before the violent snap.

        Doesn't answer the question, but it was pretty cool.
        I think in straight lines, but dream in curves

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        • crokett
          The Full Monte
          • Jan 2003
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          • Mebane, NC, USA.
          • Ryobi BT3000

          #19
          Originally posted by Wood_workur
          I think what you meant to ask is where they would break if they were evenly loaded? The tips are not designed to handle the same loads as the root of the wings because they don't produce the same lift, and don't have to support anywhere near as much.
          Huh. You learn something new every day. I thought they would produce the same lift, but I guess they wouldn't if the surface area is so much smaller.
          David

          The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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          • Wood_workur
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            • Aug 2005
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            #20
            Originally posted by crokett
            Huh. You learn something new every day. I thought they would produce the same lift, but I guess they wouldn't if the surface area is so much smaller.
            Yep. Also remember that the spars are carrying the lift produced by the outer regions where they meet the body. So not only does the inner portion of the wing produce more lift, but it also has to support the lift produced by all of the wing to the outside of it.
            Alex

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            • parnelli
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              • Aug 2004
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              #21
              Originally posted by Alex Franke
              This looks like it might be your test: wow.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe9PVaFGl3o

              Looks like it broke about 1/3 the distance from the body of the plane.
              Yep! That's the one- guess it was a 777. Thanks for finding that

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              • sscherin
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                • Dec 2003
                • 772
                • Kennewick, WA, USA.

                #22
                The test of the 787 composite wings are also online..
                Not as entertaining as the 777 test though.

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsjTn1z3PSQ
                William's Law--
                There is no mechanical problem so difficult that it
                cannot be solved by brute strength and ignorance.

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