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  • tseavoy
    Established Member
    • May 2009
    • 200
    • Nordland, Marrowstone Island, Washington
    • Older 9 inch Rockwell Delta (1960?)

    #1

    Replacing the hard drive

    Hi again,
    The new hard drive comes tomorrow. Even though I have done this before, I would like some advice.
    What I want to do is to mount the new hard drive in the spare slot in the computer, hook up the spare connector on the drive ribbon cable to it , clone the old drive to the new drive, then remove the old drive and put the new drive in the place the old drive was.
    I've read a lot on this topic on the internet, but have not found a good description on how to do this. I have xxcopy on my computer and today I also downloaded xxclone.
    Maybe I was more astute when I did this about 5 years ago.

    Tom on Marrowstone

    Some day I HAVE to clean out the shop.
  • crokett
    The Full Monte
    • Jan 2003
    • 10627
    • Mebane, NC, USA.
    • Ryobi BT3000

    #2
    I believe gedit will do what you want. Google it- it is a free partition editor. You can download a bootable CD image.
    David

    The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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    • radhak
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2006
      • 3061
      • Miramar, FL
      • Right Tilt 3HP Unisaw

      #3
      David, gedit is an editor; he needs a drive cloner.


      Tom, forget xxcopy; xxclone is the way to go. And it's way too easy and simple to need any guidance. Once you attach your new drive just the way you said, you'd run xxclone and pick the options you want. It'll surprise you with it's ease of use.
      It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
      - Aristotle

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      • Tom Slick
        Veteran Member
        • May 2005
        • 2913
        • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
        • sears BT3 clone

        #4
        I new to the backup or cloning idea other than having key files in 2 places, usually on a cd/dvd. Can you guys explain the benefits of cloning except when installing a replacement drive?
        Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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        • radhak
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2006
          • 3061
          • Miramar, FL
          • Right Tilt 3HP Unisaw

          #5
          Originally posted by Tom Slick
          I new to the backup or cloning idea other than having key files in 2 places, usually on a cd/dvd. Can you guys explain the benefits of cloning except when installing a replacement drive?
          Cloning refers to a 'backup' for a special purpose - for the replacement drive. But it could be a drive replacing the old one in a planned fashion, or it could be a plan-for-a-contingency replacement drive. ie, you'd clone your drive today (and maybe overwrite it every month) just in case your main drive crashed; in which case you'd just remove that damaged drive, pop in the replacement drive, and boot as usual - with your machine looking exactly as it did when cloned.

          So cloning is just backing up your drive fully, with some more power. Obviously it will take far more time, and has to be verified time-and-again as a workable/bootable copy.
          It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
          - Aristotle

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          • crokett
            The Full Monte
            • Jan 2003
            • 10627
            • Mebane, NC, USA.
            • Ryobi BT3000

            #6
            radhak, I thought gedit did cloning also. I thought I used it once to do that. I could be wrong though.
            David

            The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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            • Bill Stock
              Established Member
              • Nov 2006
              • 186
              • Canada, Eh!
              • BT3100

              #7
              Originally posted by tseavoy
              Hi again,
              The new hard drive comes tomorrow. Even though I have done this before, I would like some advice.

              Tom on Marrowstone
              Assuming it's a SeaCrate, they offer free migration software (cloning) here:

              http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.js...00dd04090aRCRD

              I don't know if WD offers something similar, I would not be surprised.

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              • rjwaldren
                Established Member
                • Nov 2007
                • 368
                • Fresno, CA

                #8
                Tom, it seems like you said this was a fairly old PC, running W98. Am I mistaken? If that's the case you may need to use the Manufacturers disc to install a compatibility driver to allow the BIOS to access the new drive correctly. It's not common anymore, but it was quite a hassle a few years back. You should also make sure the BIOS is as current as can be.

                If you bought a retail boxed drive it should have a disc containing any drivers you'll need and most likely a cloning tool along with instructions to migrate from the old drive. If it's not retail boxed, check the manufacturers site, they should have it all available for download.

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                • tseavoy
                  Established Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 200
                  • Nordland, Marrowstone Island, Washington
                  • Older 9 inch Rockwell Delta (1960?)

                  #9
                  thanks!
                  One more question: When I put the new drive in to be copied, should I put the jumper to be the slave drive?

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                  • sd
                    Forum Newbie
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 66
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by crokett
                    radhak, I thought gedit did cloning also. I thought I used it once to do that. I could be wrong though.
                    You're probably thinking of GParted.
                    -- Steve

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                    • rjwaldren
                      Established Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 368
                      • Fresno, CA

                      #11
                      On an older system, most likely yes until after the clone. Make sure that your original drive is Master and not Single Master. Or you can use the other channel unless your CDROM is using it up.

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