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  • rjwaldren
    Established Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 368
    • Fresno, CA

    #1

    Difficult Bolt Extraction...

    I stayed out of it as long as I could...But yesterday my wife advised me otherwise....

    My sisters '97 ford escort has broken down...again. She bought it about 7 years ago used, and had problems within 2 weeks of driving it off the lot. It's on it's second engine and tranny since she bought it.

    Now its at my dad's - He tells me that one piston wasn't firing and the #3 sparkplug was disintegrated. Okay let's pull the head and see if anything can be done... Bear in mind that this is a rebuilt engine about 18mo old.

    I pulled the the external items and found blow by in both the #2 and #3 intake manifold ports. The #1 stud on the exhaust manifold fell away when I put a socket on it. There was blow by on #1 and #3 exhaust manifold ports. So I start cracking the head bolts and most come out pretty easily though heavily rusted. Three bolts gave some problems. One looked like the had used a sealant when they installed it and I had to thread it all the way out. Two snapped - they were dry but rusty.

    So here's the question - from the look of the snapped bolts the broke inside the unthreaded area (about 1" up from the block inside the head). If we can get the head off it should be no problem removing them. The problem is the head won't budge. It's either being locked in place by the two broken bolts or it's been sealed to the block (epoxy???).

    Is there a way to drill out the bolts without chewing up the head? The break point is about 4" from the top the head in about a 3/8" hole. I can get an extra long bit and maybe a sleeve to protect the head, but there's no way to get an extractor down there. Any ideas would be appreciated.
    Last edited by rjwaldren; 06-16-2009, 12:21 PM.
  • Wood_workur
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2005
    • 1914
    • Ohio
    • Ryobi bt3100-1

    #2
    What if you torched the head? The heat from a butane torch might be enough to weaken the sealant (if there is any) and pull the head off.
    Alex

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    • rjwaldren
      Established Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 368
      • Fresno, CA

      #3
      Unfortunately, there is so much oil that we would have the steam the whole thing before I'd get near it with fire.

      Anyway, I just got off the phone with my dad and in the new light of day he got down and looked at the things I was pointing out last night, and agrees it's not worth going any further. There's oil where there shouldn't be. There's at least a blown main seal and likely crank and bearing damage - The bit's of the missing spark plug had to go somewhere.

      A quick cost analysis says buy a another car. Last time I rebuilt a head I had about $700 into it not including the extraneous parts that were just best to replace while the car was torn apart. It's highly unlikely that the block won't need rebuilding also.
      Last edited by rjwaldren; 06-16-2009, 12:58 PM.

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      • cabinetman
        Gone but not Forgotten RIP
        • Jun 2006
        • 15216
        • So. Florida
        • Delta

        #4
        Time for a 350 SB Chevy crate motor. What a sleeper that would be.
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        • rjwaldren
          Established Member
          • Nov 2007
          • 368
          • Fresno, CA

          #5
          I found her a restored 69 Chevell 454 on local eBay for a good price. That would be nothing but trouble - She's wrecked every car she's owned and several she was borrowing.

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          • Kristofor
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            • Jul 2004
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            • Twin Cities, MN
            • Jet JTAS10 Cabinet Saw

            #6
            Perhaps it's time to recommend that your sister buy a bus pass?

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            • rjwaldren
              Established Member
              • Nov 2007
              • 368
              • Fresno, CA

              #7
              Been trying that for years... But she travels around 2 counties as an in home Physical Therapist (you'd think she'd recognize the benefits of biking). And shares a rural paper route with a friend (again - get a bike).

              Honestly, I've been wearing concealer for years, but whenever I help her or her babies daddy, I feel that the true color of my neck shows through. I'm sorry that was wrong.

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