An Engineering Kernoodler

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  • crokett
    The Full Monte
    • Jan 2003
    • 10627
    • Mebane, NC, USA.
    • Ryobi BT3000

    An Engineering Kernoodler

    Today I planned to set the ridge beam for the shop. 2x8, 24' long and set approx 40" above the 8' walls. Before I put the center poles up I screwed plywood gussets to the faces so that when I did get the beam up, it would slot in between the gussets. Anyhoo, my plan was to crib up each end using my ladders then slot it into place. I had to overcome when it was on an angle being shorter and one end wanting to fall back into the shop. I also had to overcome it wanting to tip sideways. After trying various things to lift it for a while and it falling and grazing my shoulder, I decided pride wenteth after the fall and called my dad. He came over, looked at it and suggested something that would have enabled me to do it myself. The something overcame both problems and the beam is set. So the kernoodler is, what was his suggestion? It was amazingly simple and I should have thought of it.

    Oh, for full disclosure the last thing I tried was to make two lift sticks - 2x4s with short blocks nailed to each face to make cradles for the beam to sit in. However, once those got off the floor they were too unsteady and the whole thing wanted to (and did) fall over.
    Last edited by crokett; 05-24-2009, 06:27 PM.
    David

    The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.
  • TB Roye
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2004
    • 2969
    • Sacramento, CA, USA.
    • BT3100

    #2
    David

    I will bite. what is a Kernoodler?

    Tom

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    • Bill Stock
      Established Member
      • Nov 2006
      • 186
      • Canada, Eh!
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      #3
      Originally posted by crokett
      So the kernoodler is, what was his suggestion? It was amazingly simple and I should have thought of it.
      I'm sure it was something else but I probably would have (tried) pulled it up with a couple of ropes.

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      • crokett
        The Full Monte
        • Jan 2003
        • 10627
        • Mebane, NC, USA.
        • Ryobi BT3000

        #4
        Originally posted by TB Roye
        David

        I will bite. what is a Kernoodler?

        Tom
        Puzzle, conundrum, perplexer, brain exerciser, etc. I guess a kernoodler is a regional word or something. And no, what a kernoodler is, isn't the kernoodler.

        Bill, I thought about ropes but figured by the time I framed up something to tie the ropes to, my dad would be over helping me.
        David

        The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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        • thestinker
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 613
          • Fort Worth, TX, USA.

          #5
          I'll take a guess....a pick up load of day labors
          Awww forget trying to fix it!!!! Lets just drink beer

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          • crokett
            The Full Monte
            • Jan 2003
            • 10627
            • Mebane, NC, USA.
            • Ryobi BT3000

            #6
            Originally posted by thestinker
            I'll take a guess....a pick up load of day labors
            Nope. Although one did help when we took the shop down and I gotta say he earned every bit of his money.

            Ok a hint. We used 2x4s.
            David

            The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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            • sparkeyjames
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              • Jan 2007
              • 1087
              • Redford MI.
              • Craftsman 21829

              #7
              Ok I'll take a stab in the dark at it.
              4 long 2x4's 2 for each end of the beam in a scissor fashion?

              This thread will need picture proof when all is said and done.
              Last edited by sparkeyjames; 05-24-2009, 09:19 PM.

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              • crokett
                The Full Monte
                • Jan 2003
                • 10627
                • Mebane, NC, USA.
                • Ryobi BT3000

                #8
                Originally posted by sparkeyjames
                Ok I'll take a stab in the dark at it.
                4 long 2x4's 2 for each end of the beam in a scissor fashion?

                This thread will need picture proof when all is said and done.
                We have some smart members here. Yeah - basically an a-frame. It solved two problems - one being when lifting one end up to get it set, the other would want to fall off the top of the wall. The other problem it solved was the beam wanted to tip over and the legs of the frame acted as a counter balance.

                I will get pics tomorrow, I promise. The last couple weekends by the time I think about pictures I am scrambling to get the tarp on.
                David

                The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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                • gjat
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                  • Nov 2005
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                  • Valrico (Tampa), Florida.
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                  #9
                  I would have used a few 2x4's as a pivot jack to get one end up by myself and lashed the raised end to keep it in place, or nailed a block on the floor to keep it there, depending on how much play was in the gusset slot. The other end I would have lifted up with a rope from a ladder.

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                  • TB Roye
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                    • Jan 2004
                    • 2969
                    • Sacramento, CA, USA.
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                    #10
                    Now I understand. "Swedish Ingenuity".

                    Tom

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