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  • radhak
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    #1

    KO : Jon Stewart vs Jim Cramer

    This was an amazing piece of television yesterday : Jon Stewart Wins Cramer Showdown. Rarely do you see such fun stuff. Of course, I am biased - I long believed Cramer needs to be stuffed and mounted on a wall .

    Now somebody needs to pay some attention to Nancy Grace .

    Btw, I heard somewhere that the response has been so great they are gonna play the whole thing again tonight at 8pm. Just in case anybody wants to catch it. Or you could check it out online : http://www.thedailyshow.com/.
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
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  • crokett
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    #2
    I heard about it on the radio today and found it on youtube. Great stuff.
    David

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    • germdoc
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      #3
      This is even more impressive:

      http://www.thebigmoney.com/articles/...shteroids-game

      Even more fun than the original!
      Jeff


      “Doctors are men who prescribe medicines of which they know little, to cure diseases of which they know less, in human beings of whom they know nothing”--Voltaire

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      • jussi
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        #4
        I saw it. Not a fan of either guys. Both blow hards and full of them selves.
        I reject your reality and substitute my own.

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        • dkerfoot
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          #5
          Originally posted by jussi
          I saw it. Not a fan of either guys. Both blow hards and full of them selves.
          I agree - It is much easier to mock someone else's work than to actually create something yourself. JS is just a critic, winking at the audience so that they can feel all superior along with him.

          He could pretty much level most of the same criticisms at Warren Buffet, but that wouldn't make him smarter than WB.

          Don't get me wrong, Cramer is a buffoon, but Stewart is not any better.
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          • Uncle Cracker
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            #6
            Ego explosion... It's easy for Stewart to pile on and criticize after the fact. It's not like he knew the financial meltdown was coming, either. I think Cramer on his show has been responding to TV producers, who want theatrics and drama. Stewart's probably do, too, hence the confrontational program. Frankly, I don't need Jon Stewart to by my inquisitor, as his credibility ain't so hot. Cramer probably wishes he could've done something before the excrement impacted the air-moving appliance, but it didn't happen, so let it be.

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            • jackellis
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              #7
              I'm not a fan of Cramers but I'm happy to see him get a raft of crap. I don't know Stewart. As for comparisons with Buffett, well them's fightin' words

              Buffett's got his warts, but he's always fessed up to the few mistakes he's made. Can't say that about most folks.

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              • Alex Franke
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                #8
                Originally posted by Uncle Cracker
                Ego explosion... It's easy for Stewart to pile on and criticize after the fact. It's not like he knew the financial meltdown was coming, either. I think Cramer on his show has been responding to TV producers, who want theatrics and drama. Stewart's probably do, too, hence the confrontational program. Frankly, I don't need Jon Stewart to by my inquisitor, as his credibility ain't so hot. Cramer probably wishes he could've done something before the excrement impacted the air-moving appliance, but it didn't happen, so let it be.
                I didn't see it like that at all. Jon had some good points, and he wasn't just bludgeoning Cramer because he couldn't tell the future... He's actually a pretty smart guy -- slanted, but smart. Cramer's pretty smart, too -- annoying, but smart. That's my $749,135.54 Zimbabwe dollars.
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                • Uncle Cracker
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Alex Franke
                  He's actually a pretty smart guy -- slanted, but smart. Cramer's pretty smart, too -- annoying, but smart.
                  And there you have it... Two smarts don't make a right. Still think it would be interesting to know what either of them did with their own money during this fiasco.


                  Originally posted by jackellis
                  Buffett's got his warts, but he's always fessed up to the few mistakes he's made.
                  So did Madoff...

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                  • radhak
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                    #10
                    Actually, just on this one I'm all the way with Stewart. He is not in the advisory business. He does not claim to guide people, financially or otherwise. Whether he was able to predict all the financial mess or not is not even relevant : he's on ComedyCentral, for chrissake!

                    What is relevant, is that Cramer is a major talking-head of CNBC's 'financial arm'. His whole job is to advise Joe the Public on investments and the stock market. Jon Stewart simply highlighted the fact that Jim Cramer and others of his ilk utterly failed to do their job. Maybe the more intelligent viewer should have realized Cramer is just a gas-bag, but that's neither here nor there. The fact that there were many others like Cramer ( seemingly more rational and subdued) that were just as taken in by the amazingly booming markets only makes the case for more such confrontations. We need more of such 'advisors' to be put on the mat and skewered.

                    I have always thought Jon Stewart has an unbearable smirk. But for once I am glad he's around to ask the blunt question, bluntly. Of course, it is all the more telling that none of the the financial networks have seriously taken up this role of the questioner.
                    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
                    - Aristotle

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                    • jgrobler
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Alex Franke
                      That's my $749,135.54 Zimbabwe dollars.
                      That's a good one.

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                      • herb fellows
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by dkerfoot
                        I agree - It is much easier to mock someone else's work than to actually create something yourself. JS is just a critic, winking at the audience so that they can feel all superior along with him.

                        He could pretty much level most of the same criticisms at Warren Buffet, but that wouldn't make him smarter than WB.

                        Don't get me wrong, Cramer is a buffoon, but Stewart is not any better.
                        The difference is that Stewart runs a comedy show. Cramer told people how to invest their life savings.
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                        • dkerfoot
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by herb fellows
                          The difference is that Stewart runs a comedy show. Cramer told people how to invest their life savings.
                          Really? Was this a comedy sketch? Do you really believe Stewart isn't trying to tell you how you should think? Watch it again. Comedy or commentary?

                          Stewart loves to duck under the "comedy" blanket every time someone tries to hold him accountable but isn't man enough to allow others a pass.
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                          • drumpriest
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                            #14
                            The Daily Show is a satire on the news, while being itself a news program. It is usually funny (to me) but also takes advantage of its position as being highly popular to make political statements and to take the mickey out of people as they see fit. Regardless of how you feel about the daily show, it's fair to say that they do a ton of research when they have people on like this. They rarely get into these types of serious interviews, which affords them more time and man power to really go after it when they do.

                            Catching people in a bold faced lie on a national TV interview is always fun to me, regardless of who is on the hot seat.
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                            • cgallery
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                              #15
                              So John Stewart blindsides Cramer with his 20-20 hindsight. Not impressed.

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