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  • Tom Slick
    Veteran Member
    • May 2005
    • 2913
    • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
    • sears BT3 clone

    #1

    Toured NUMMI today

    NUMMI is the joint GM/Toyota venture in Fremont Calif. Neat place, tours are free but you should make a reservation.
    www.nummi.com

    I also toured Toyota Logistics which distributes the toyota vehicles from NUMMI and also installs "dealer options" like spoilers, trailer hitches, TRD parts...

    Interesting NUMMI facts:
    It is a UAW plant and it turns a profit.
    GM was unable to make a profit for 20 years in the same plant with the same union workers, Toyota was profiting by year 2 (1986).
    They build Tacoma, Corolla, and Pontiac Vibe. Interestingly the Matrix is made in Canada.
    a car rolls off the line every 54 seconds, was 1000 per day, now about 800.
    The car line is mixed between corollas and vibes one after another including body welding, suspension assembly, paint etc.
    a tacoma rolls off the truck line every 2 minutes, was 400 per day, now about 300.
    In the plant they have a 4 hour inventory of parts, that includes parts at the assembly location and on the storage shelves. Parts are delivered constantly and they have about 2 days worth of parts sitting in trailers.
    The parts and body panels I saw being made at noon today are now complete vehicles and probably on a truck or train right now.
    Bodies are stamped in house from US made steel. all bodies stamped in one day are used in one day.
    the rumor that anyone can stop the line (andon and jidoka in toyota speak) is true. When the cord is pulled they have 3 mins to fix the problem before the line stops. The cord is pulled over 1000 times per day! they do not pass defects beyond the spot where it was discovered. I saw at least 10 spots where the cord was pulled. (it plays music and a light illuminates)
    Within 24 hours and often within 8 hours every vehicle built that day has left toyota logistics on a truck or train. that's over 1400 vehicles in 24 hours.

    They are slowing down. They do not lay people off. employees have 3 options: come to work and do training or community service for full pay, use paid vacation time, stay home and not get paid but your position is reserved for you.

    really interesting tour but very quick. not much time is spent in any one area so you don't get much time to watch robots or people work. lots of robots.
    Last edited by Tom Slick; 12-09-2008, 08:13 PM.
    Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison
  • jackellis
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    • Nov 2003
    • 2638
    • Tahoe City, CA, USA.
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    #2
    I should take that tour!

    It's interesting how often seemingly small changes can make a big difference. I remember reading years ao about how one of the "Big 3" plants used to store the rolls of sheet steel that are stamped into auto bodies. A lot of it ended up damaged - rust, dents and other imperfections that would make the stuff useless for car bodies, so it had to be...scrapped.

    I've done a little work with and for Japanese engineers in the power industry. The thing that impressed me most was their attention to the smallest details.

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    • crokett
      The Full Monte
      • Jan 2003
      • 10627
      • Mebane, NC, USA.
      • Ryobi BT3000

      #3
      I should show this to my wife. She doesn't quite believe that the our Vibe is really a Toyota.
      David

      The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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      • Tom Slick
        Veteran Member
        • May 2005
        • 2913
        • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
        • sears BT3 clone

        #4
        It is 100% Toyota, in fact it is mostly Corolla. That's why it is easily assembled on the same line.
        Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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        • TB Roye
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          • Jan 2004
          • 2969
          • Sacramento, CA, USA.
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          #5
          My Tacoma was made there and I have been through the plant. The Engines and Tramissions still come from Japan or in 2002 they did. There was a Chevy version of the Corolla built there at one time. The problem with the Big 3 is they have to many models and options where as the Foreign makes have just a few. I had a choice of 6 colors for my Tacoma. The quality is there. My Tacoma has only been in the shop for services. LOML's Ford Expedition has had 2 rear ends and is working on the third one. The plastic body cladding on the sides have been replaced twice because of fading and is ready for a new set. The leather seats covers are crap and look like they have 200k on them. Now it is getting hard to get warranty work done they have close 3 Ford dealers in area this year. This for a vehicle that has 57K on it in 4 years. Take off the 20 round trips to Idaho at 1100 miles each and it wouldn't have but 30K on it. Gotta get rid of it by the 100k spark plug change that is $600 because the plugs are inacessable. I still like it for its size and comfort on long trips. Now that gas is $1.59 it's fun to use more still it's going into the shop right after Christmas. I have 72K on the Tacoma and on the second set of tires and brakes, So is the Expedition but at an earlier mileage. MPG there is about 3-4 MPG difference if even that and most of that is because of the rear end gearing 3:73 for the ford and 4:10 for the Tacoma.

          Tom

          Tom

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          • cabinetman
            Gone but not Forgotten RIP
            • Jun 2006
            • 15216
            • So. Florida
            • Delta

            #6
            Originally posted by jackellis
            I should take that tour!

            I remember reading years ao about how one of the "Big 3" plants used to store the rolls of sheet steel that are stamped into auto bodies.

            I was reading an article about the early years of Willys Jeep, and how wartime efforts had household appliance makers stamping out sheet metal for bodies.
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            • jziegler
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              • Aug 2005
              • 1149
              • Salem, NJ, USA.
              • Ryobi BT3100

              #7
              I've heard great things about that plant. From your tour, it sounds like it is true. That's where my current car (a Vibe) was built, and it certainly is a well built car. Sounds like they really take JIT manufacturing to the extreme there.

              Dave, just open up the hood and point out to your wife various parts that say Toyota or Denso (Toyota's parts division) on them, and that will show the Toyota part of the car. I don't remember seeing anything under the hood that is obviously GM origin other than the battery.

              Jim

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              • ragswl4
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 1559
                • Winchester, Ca
                • C-Man 22114

                #8
                Toyota has been heavily into LEAN and Six Sigma for a number of years, maybe in excess of 30 years. They learned or adapted all of it from Dr. Demming who went to Japan sometime after WWII to help Japan's economy get rolling. Ford has been attempting to adapt to this philosophy for a few years. Don't know about GM or Chrysler. Cutting waste and decreasing inventory is a big part of this philosophy.
                RAGS
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                • crokett
                  The Full Monte
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 10627
                  • Mebane, NC, USA.
                  • Ryobi BT3000

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jziegler
                  Dave, just open up the hood and point out to your wife various parts that say Toyota or Denso (Toyota's parts division) on them, and that will show the Toyota part of the car. I don't remember seeing anything under the hood that is obviously GM origin other than the battery.

                  Jim
                  I've tried that. She still insists that it is a U.S. made car, especially after spending 600 bucks on a new fuel pump. Plus the O2 sensors appear to be going for the second time.
                  David

                  The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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