Attack!

[cabinetman]

What if we neutered the owners as well as the dogs??

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That would be a good start!!
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[JeffG78]

What if we neutered the owners as well as the dogs??

g.

That would solve MANY problems.

[gsmittle]

I agree with you, that it's not the breed, but the owners. Some people should have to go through training before owning dogs. I've had big German Shepherds all my life and gone through obedience and guard training with several of them. Had exposure to K-9's in the military. There is just more publicity about Pit Bills, Rottwellers, and German Shepherds biting people. It's just not big news when the ankle biters do it. I have compassion for the dogs that aren't properly cared for.
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What if we neutered the owners as well as the dogs??

g.

[cabinetman]

I'm not a dog owner (but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. ) I'm a big fan of the TV show "Dog Whisperer," and having observed the way some of my siblings' dogs behave, I fully agree with host Cesar Millan. The dogs aren't the problem.

I agree with you, that it's not the breed, but the owners. Some people should have to go through training before owning dogs. I've had big German Shepherds all my life and gone through obedience and guard training with several of them. Had exposure to K-9's in the military. There is just more publicity about Pit Bills, Rottwellers, and German Shepherds biting people. It's just not big news when the ankle biters do it. I have compassion for the dogs that aren't properly cared for.
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[LinuxRandal]

Do dogs know when someone is joking?

A former neighbor, that had been a thief and a problem for me as long as he was there, moved back in to his stepfathers house, as a renter, when his stepfather moved out of state.
He had pittbulls, that he would say to him "attack, get him" when he saw me out. I made a report about it, had several officers I know say get a gun and carry it outside, after the dogs were out loose and chased me on MY property (they stopped when I turned and yelled at them (not much more I could have done).
Yet he claimed they were gentle. They went after his daughter and a neighbors kid (no bites) and he kept them. They went after the letter carrier (neighborhood threatened him with a lawsuit as post office was threatening to stop delivery to our block), the utility workers (easements), the home appraiser (his stepfather sent), and finally bit a meter reader (which sued and cause the dogs to go away).

rant on
I know some pitt bull owners declare that their dogs are the sweetest dogs in the world, but it seems that more often times than not, it is Pitt Bulls that are the dogs running loose and attacking people/pets

I know there are far more aggressive dogs out there, the police in Char-Meck utilize some of these eastern-european breeds for their ferocity, and more importantly their ability to be trained.

I believe that we are getting to a point in this country, that an outright ban on the pitt-bull terriers should be considered, or at the very least the lovers of the breed should push for some sort of legislation against the breeding of pit-bulls that does not have as one of it's main goals the pacification of that breeds particular vicious streak

My uncle when he was alive, made it his goal to only breed Dacshunds that were well mannered, easy going, and good natured, he explained to me that the personality of a breed is, by and large a component of genetics, and can be influenced greatly, within just a few generations. I'm sure most of the dog people on this board have know weiner dogs that were just beastly...

I am sure the same can be, or hopefully will be said in the future of pitt bulls, and if not, those dogs have no place in our society



rant off

Too many people are the wrong type of owner, and KEEP breeding this breed, to become the worst of animal. It may come down to this.

[Schleeper]

I'm not a dog owner (but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. ) I'm a big fan of the TV show "Dog Whisperer," and having observed the way some of my siblings' dogs behave, I fully agree with host Cesar Millan. The dogs aren't the problem.

http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/

[Richard in Smithville]

Ed, I really hope that you dog recovers from this attack and you get some type of restitution.

Earlier this year there was an attack by two Lab crosses that saw a small dog literally torn in two by these dogs infront of his owner. The dogs were repeat offenders but they kept being given back to their owner. This last time the owner was charged and is waiting for trial. In the meantime, some one ( or two) broke into the animal control building and stole these two dogs( only these two). I think it is safe to say that these dogs are finished their killing spree.

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[docrowan]

We live in a mostly open neighborhood, very few fences. I like it that way, makes it easier to keep track of children. The downside is when a dog gets loose, it can wander quite a bit. We've had no trouble with big dogs, but I've had a little yippy dog chase my outside cat once. I chased it with a broom and I doubt it'll do that again, certainly not while I'm around.

There's several heavy and handy objects around the outside of my house. If a big dog makes a serious attack, it will be lucky if it makes it back out of my yard under its own power.

[TB Roye]

In Sacramento we have off leash Dog Parks. The one I take our dog daily is about 2-3 ac. with a large mound with a tunnel going through it. There and benches and picnic tables and a Doggie water fountain and a big mud hole for the Labs. The are a number of pit bulls altered and unalter along with numerous other dogs. It is amazining how they all get along most of the time. Last week the young femal put bull and a young pit bull that both my dog and the others play with roughly went off and stepped over the line injuring the other pit bull. She was taken home and has not returned. She was a sweet heart and as loving and gentle as you could ask but something happened. In the two months we have been going that was the first incident I have observed. The dogs have a way of making the other back down it doesn't like what is going on. We all have a great time watching our dog be dogs. Usually there are between 15 and 30 dogs there and the all seem to have a good time. They also seem to have friends they run around with, instead of one big pack there can up to 10 smaller packs. It taks a few visits for new comers to learn what to do and how to play after about the 3 time no matter what size they are they know what to do and how to behave. My dog is a better behaved dog at home after going there and looks forward to her visits. Everybody picks up after their dog and lets other know when there dog goes, as some time you don't see. In fact this park is cleaner than the regular park down the street from my house.

When I walk my dog in the Neighborhood I carry a 24'' piece of 1" oak dowels that has been hollowed out on one end and had lead added, this is just incase we run into a aggressive dog or person. Haven't had to use it yet but it is nice to have.

Tom

[crokett]

Sorry to hear that Ed. I hope your dog is ok. I did have a problem a few months ago when I was taking care of my sister's dog. I went over to let her out and she was barking like crazy. Turned out there was a dog in the back yard. I chased him into her fenced area then locked the gate and called Animal Control. The dog turned out to be well-mannered but I didn't know that at the time. Animal Control recognized the dog and said the owner would be fined and/or might have the dog taken away. Apparently she was a repeat offender in not keeping her dog fenced or on a leash.

[JeffG78]

My wife walks our dogs several times a day and CONSTANTLY comes in contact with loose dogs. She always carries citronella spray and has had to use it on several occasions. For the most part, it will stop a dog in its tracks. She then calls the police. We live in a tiny town with very attentive police, so they help out as best they can. On several occasions, the officers visited the dog's owner and made it VERY clear that they would be charged if the dog was spotted off leash in the future. One owner was charged since their dog had gone after someone else before it came after my dog and me.

[BobSch]

Tomorrow I'll find out who owns the dogs. I'm hoping they won't give me a hard time paying for the doctor visit.

Ed

Do you have a leash law in your area? Even if you don't, the owner should cough up for the vet costs plus any of your costs. If they don't, there's always small-claims court.

[Ed62]

The animal control officer told me they had the larger (male) pit bull about 2 weeks ago. He said the dog got along very well with other dogs who had been picked up. I don't doubt that because he was not the agressor. He only came in after the other one attacked my dog, and they were fighting. Both pit bulls were gentle with people.

Our dog is still bleeding a little, and has developed a slight limp. We have an appointment to see the vet this afternoon. I don't think it's anything serious, but it needs to be checked out.

Tomorrow I'll find out who owns the dogs. I'm hoping they won't give me a hard time paying for the doctor visit.

Ed

[pierhogunn]

rant on
I know some pitt bull owners declare that their dogs are the sweetest dogs in the world, but it seems that more often times than not, it is Pitt Bulls that are the dogs running loose and attacking people/pets

I know there are far more aggressive dogs out there, the police in Char-Meck utilize some of these eastern-european breeds for their ferocity, and more importantly their ability to be trained.

I believe that we are getting to a point in this country, that an outright ban on the pitt-bull terriers should be considered, or at the very least the lovers of the breed should push for some sort of legislation against the breeding of pit-bulls that does not have as one of it's main goals the pacification of that breeds particular vicious streak

My uncle when he was alive, made it his goal to only breed Dacshunds that were well mannered, easy going, and good natured, he explained to me that the personality of a breed is, by and large a component of genetics, and can be influenced greatly, within just a few generations. I'm sure most of the dog people on this board have know weiner dogs that were just beastly...

I am sure the same can be, or hopefully will be said in the future of pitt bulls, and if not, those dogs have no place in our society



rant off

[cgallery]

...along with their owner.

Yep.

And animal control should have acted sooner on the repeat complaints. With pitt bulls I advocate a "one strike and you're out" policy.