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  • Uncle Cracker
    The Full Monte
    • May 2007
    • 7091
    • Sunshine State
    • BT3000

    #1

    Fixin' to get homicidal...

    I'm running a couple of new circuits to the shop this weekend... Doesn't help that my attic is about 300 degrees... But figured it would still be a fairly easy job, because the roof pitch is high and the center space is decked. The breaker box is installed in a thickened wall, and it looked like a no-brainer to fish a couple pull strings up alongside the existing wiring into the attic... NOT! Apparently, the moronic electrician who wired the house thought it would be a good idea to fill the thickened wall from the top of the breaker box to the attic with expandable foam!! No way I'm gonna be pokin' through 5 feet of Great Stuff... Now I gotta go around. Gonna disembowel the next electrician I run into...
  • Ed62
    The Full Monte
    • Oct 2006
    • 6021
    • NW Indiana
    • BT3K

    #2
    That sucks. I hate it when you think you've got the world by the tail, then something rears it's ugly head.

    Ed
    Do you know about kickback? Ray has a good writeup here... https://www.sawdustzone.org/articles...mare-explained

    For a kickback demonstration video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/910584...demonstration/

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    • gsmittle
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2004
      • 2793
      • St. Louis, MO, USA.
      • BT 3100

      #3
      Man, that sux. You might wanna look for the guy that did it and disembowel him. Otherwise, some poor electrician's gonna get a surprise.

      g.
      Smit

      "Be excellent to each other."
      Bill & Ted

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      • Uncle Cracker
        The Full Monte
        • May 2007
        • 7091
        • Sunshine State
        • BT3000

        #4
        Originally posted by gsmittle
        You might wanna look for the guy that did it and disembowel him. Otherwise, some poor electrician's gonna get a surprise.
        After 10 years, I'll never find him. Just gonna have to kill 'em all...

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        • cabinetman
          Gone but not Forgotten RIP
          • Jun 2006
          • 15216
          • So. Florida
          • Delta

          #5
          Hey, you only gotta go 5'. Maybe there's a snake of sorts that electricians use just for problems like that.
          .

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          • crokett
            The Full Monte
            • Jan 2003
            • 10627
            • Mebane, NC, USA.
            • Ryobi BT3000

            #6
            HD sells a flexible drill bit that is 6' long IIRC. It is in the electrical section and you can attach a cable to the end of it to pull it back once you do the drilling. You might try that.
            David

            The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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            • Uncle Cracker
              The Full Monte
              • May 2007
              • 7091
              • Sunshine State
              • BT3000

              #7
              Problem is that all the other wires from the whole house go right down through the goop in that same stud space. There's no way to know what I'm gouging up while I'm hacking through it...

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              • Hellrazor
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2003
                • 2091
                • Abyss, PA
                • Ridgid R4512

                #8
                Originally posted by Uncle Cracker
                Problem is that all the other wires from the whole house go right down through the goop in that same stud space. There's no way to know what I'm gouging up while I'm hacking through it...
                Thats ok, the shock therapy will be helpfull and what is 1 or 3 more wires to pull

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                • Pappy
                  The Full Monte
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 10490
                  • San Marcos, TX, USA.
                  • BT3000 (x2)

                  #9
                  I ran into a similar situation when I decided to run all my cable and phone lines in the attic. I found that all the walls in my house are insulated. Makes pulling/fishing a wire harder but it helps a lot with noise from the trains.
                  Don, aka Pappy,

                  Wise men talk because they have something to say,
                  Fools because they have to say something.
                  Plato

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                  • Uncle Cracker
                    The Full Monte
                    • May 2007
                    • 7091
                    • Sunshine State
                    • BT3000

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Pappy
                    Makes pulling/fishing a wire harder but it helps a lot with noise from the trains.
                    I guess I'll have to go out and get me a train, Pappy...

                    Update: Digging through the crap with a pry bar (pulling out the chaff with a shopvac as I go...) About halfway through, and only have about 100 holes in my back from roofing nails...
                    Last edited by Uncle Cracker; 08-17-2008, 08:35 AM.

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                    • DaveS
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2003
                      • 596
                      • Minneapolis,MN

                      #11
                      Is the breaker in a non-visible spot? (i.e. not in the living room, etc.).

                      If so, you can just run some conduit. The plastic is really easy to work with, and pretty inexpensive.

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                      • Uncle Cracker
                        The Full Monte
                        • May 2007
                        • 7091
                        • Sunshine State
                        • BT3000

                        #12
                        Originally posted by DaveS
                        Is the breaker in a non-visible spot? (i.e. not in the living room, etc.).

                        If so, you can just run some conduit. The plastic is really easy to work with, and pretty inexpensive.
                        Thought I was gonna have to go that route, but I have managed to get through the expando-foam... Problem with the other way is that all the knockouts are in the top of the load center. Getting through the side would have been every bit as big a PITA as going through the foam, so it was "choose my poison". Still pissed off at the electrician, though...

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                        • Hellrazor
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 2091
                          • Abyss, PA
                          • Ridgid R4512

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Uncle Cracker
                          Still pissed off at the electrician, though...
                          I bet he was laughing the whole time he emptied the cans

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