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  • JSUPreston
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 1189
    • Montgomery, AL.
    • Delta 36-979 w/Biesemyere fence kit making it a 36-982. Previous saw was BT3100-1.

    #1

    One bad weekend

    Friday night, my 6 year old son started complaining of "brain freeze" even though we had no ice cream in the house. Figuring that he is cursed with migraines like his brother, SWMBO and me, I told him to go lay down in his room for a few minutes while I finished cooking supper (wife still doesn't know where the kitchen is...we've been in the house 6 years).

    He passed out and slept a couple of hours. When he got up, he was running a temp of 103 and complaining that his tummy hurt. Fearing the worst, we called the pediatrician, who also feared the worst and gave us some things to look for to see if it was appendicitis. By 10:00, the pediatrician has us go to the ER, since it looked like it was his appendix.

    ER wasted no time...he had an IV and was in a room less than 20 minutes after arriving. CBC came back normal, and his temp had dropped from the Tylenol we had given several hours earlier. Knowing how our son behaves, the wife and I both knew something was wrong. We opted for the CT scan with rectal contrast. The ER doctor said he was constipated, the radiologist tech said it looked like an impaction to him. We made it home and to bed by 4:30 am.

    As per the pediatrician, he got 2 enemas during the day Saturday. At this point he quit eating and drinking. By Sunday, still no poo. We took him to emergency hours at the pediatrician's office. She ran some tests and another x-ray. Even though I am not medically inclined, when I saw the x-ray (all digital, I saw it when the tech did), I could tell the problem. It looked to me like all of his large intestine was full. Doctor confirmed what I saw and said it was because he had yet to pass the contrast. We were given the option of trying to help him pass the poo with more enemas/laxatives or take him to the hospital. Wife and I didn't have to think about it...we knew we were out of our league. We had a pediatric room at the hospital waiting when we arrived.

    The immediately started him on fluids. By this time it was close to 5:00 on Sunday. All he had since Friday morning was a small bag of chips (he didn't eat the rest of lunch at school), part of a small bag of popcorn, the top off a raisin bran muffin, and a few Ritz crackers. He was put on a clear liquid diet.

    Sunday night and early Monday, he had at least 2 more enemas. They spiked a Sprite with Miralax (sp?), which he drank. No poo. Doctor and nurse told us he couldn't go until he could go. Took him off liquids Monday afternoon, inserted an NG (sp?) tube down his nose, and started him on Golytely. At this point, he was fed up with everything and everyone, but was really too weak to put up much of a fight.

    10 hours after starting the Golytely, while I was at home and the wife was spending the night, he finally had an explosive blowout, the likes of which I haven't seen since our 1st son had Rotovirus. I'll spare the details, which I know about from the others I saw and helped clean up. During the day Tuesday, he had a couple of these blowouts, and pretty much either slept or watched a borrowed Bob the Builder video repeatedly. Tues. night, a pediatric Gastrointerologist (sp?) came by and ordered an additional x-ray. The nurses, my wife and I were fully expecting the same results, but according to the Radiologist, the worst had passed (pun intended). Good thing, since the last resort was to send him to the ER and have everything dug out under anasthesia (sp?).

    Since my wife figured I could handle things at this point, I spent the night with him. He did start complaining of what I can only assume to be a migraine, but wouldn't take anything for it. He is scared of medicine and anyone in a nurse's uniform. So, it was a restless night for me. I did wake up to another blowout, and had to clean him up by myself. We went through 3 changes of bed linens on Wed. alone. I lost count of fluid bags, but at 90ml an hour, my best guess is that they put 6000ml into him over about a 60 hour period, along with over 1/2 gallon of the Golytely.

    Yesterday (Wed.), he was told he could go home if he would eat and drink a little. He was able to put down a little sherbet (correct spelling), a soft cookie and a little PowerAide. Last night (and probably against orders) we allowed him to have a few french fries, along with the sports drinks. He has been put on a "soft diet," and we figured a few fries were soft enough, and he was begging for them. We felt so bad for him that we let him have some, which he was quite happy to eat.

    I was finally able to sleep in the bed with my wife, although she rolled me over a few times for snoring. He slept very well, but still seemed quite out of it this morning.

    The docs are telling us that he will have to have a few changes to his diet, which will be difficult since he is extremely picky. Also, we have been told his colon is several times larger than normal from all the buildup. He will hold poo until he can't hold anymore, since certain muscles are so tight that it hurts him to go. The docs tell us he will be on laxatives for at least 2 months to allow his colon to shrink to normal and to retrain his bowels. But, thankfully we are home, and thank God my wife and I listened to our guts and pushed for treatment. We were concerned that we were overreacting, but we know our own children well enough to know when something is seriously wrong.

    Sorry this seemed to ramble on, but it's hard to cram 5 days worth of poo into a text box.
    "It's a dog eat dog world out there, and I'm wearing Milk-Bone underwear."- Norm (from Cheers)

    Eat beef-because the west wasn't won on salad.
  • mschrank
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2004
    • 1130
    • Hood River, OR, USA.
    • BT3000

    #2
    Wow. I've got a five yr old that has always had problems in this area (Can't get the kid to eat anything with fiber). We've never had it that bad, but I'm glad you posted so that I know what to look for in the future.

    It's tough to see our little ones go through pain and discomfort...I hope he's doing better now.
    Mike

    Drywall screws are not wood screws

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    • atgcpaul
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2003
      • 4055
      • Maryland
      • Grizzly 1023SLX

      #3
      Wow! That sounds like some ordeal! I don't have kids yet and that sounds
      like no fun at all for you or your son. I'm glad things came out OK...so to
      speak.

      I was never a picky eaty but I dread having kids who will be. Just on the
      Today show or something they had a cook on who sneaks veggies into all
      her meals and you'd never know it. She purees the veggies and mixes them
      into her cooked dishes like spaghetti sauce.

      Someone also makes a clear, tasteless fiber powder you can mix into all your
      foods. I haven't tried it myself--no irregularity problems here--but I'd try
      that route, too. Ignorance is bliss.

      Paul

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      • cabinetman
        Gone but not Forgotten RIP
        • Jun 2006
        • 15216
        • So. Florida
        • Delta

        #4
        Glad to hear he's doing better. Can't write much more...got to go to the bathroom NOW.
        .

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        • 1index only
          Forum Newbie
          • Feb 2006
          • 39

          #5
          we too have a similar issue, our son goes, only after he soils his underwear. And when he goes it usually is the "titanic t***" as we call it. Cant imagine something so big coming out of something so little.

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          • footprintsinconc
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2006
            • 1759
            • Roseville (Sacramento), CA
            • BT3100

            #6
            wow! i hope he feels well soon. i have a daughter who is 9 and she is extremely picky and fussy about eating. she hates medicine and cries everytime we need to give her some.

            diet changes are the best, he will understand with time. you may want to introduce oatmeal into his diet. dont get the quick oatmeal. get the rolled oats from any store like sprouts or whole foods. just soak'em overnight and they literally take only 5 minutes to cook. this is going to help get the most fiber is at one time.

            best of luck!
            _________________________
            omar

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            • ksum
              Forum Newbie
              • Jan 2007
              • 69

              #7
              Our daughter is going on 5 now. She held her poo as well. Her doctor had us put her on Merilax (sp? but I'll ocntinue with this one) and said she could be on it for a year. She was not as bad off as your son, but I can really feel for you.

              We heard the same thing. Her insides became so big she didn't know when she had to go.

              It has been just over 6 months of Merilax every morning. We had to experiment to figure out just how much, and tried weaning her off it about a month ago, but had to go back to it, even though everything looked good. (She would have stuff come out of her that hurt me to think about it coming out. Big around and solid stuff.)

              The other thing we do is whatch her diet. Limit her bread, cheese, milk, and other things we even think might bind her. Out one fortunate thing is that she is not as picky an eater as many kids, and likes vegetables.

              Hang in there with this. It will be a while, but I understand there is a light at teh end of the tunnel, and it is NOT a train coming your way. (Hopefully he got all those out by now...)

              Karl

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              • jussi
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 2162

                #8
                Did the doctors give an explanation of what caused this to begin with?
                I reject your reality and substitute my own.

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                • Ed62
                  The Full Monte
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 6021
                  • NW Indiana
                  • BT3K

                  #9
                  That's a lot for a 6 year old to handle, not to mention his parents. Glad he's doing better, and hope for continued success in the future.

                  Ed
                  Do you know about kickback? Ray has a good writeup here... https://www.sawdustzone.org/articles...mare-explained

                  For a kickback demonstration video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/910584...demonstration/

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                  • JSUPreston
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 1189
                    • Montgomery, AL.
                    • Delta 36-979 w/Biesemyere fence kit making it a 36-982. Previous saw was BT3100-1.

                    #10
                    Sounds like several of you have kids with the same problem. Here's the explanation we got.

                    Even though he is very picky, he usually will eat high fiber foods, such as mini-wheats, granola, bran, etc. No vegetables, except fries, and then only certain shape and color (McD's will work, as well as Chick-Fil-A). Raisins, Granny Smith apples and grapes usually will get eaten as well.

                    However, our problem is more physical than diet (or so the doctor says). His opening is a little, uhm, tighter than normal, as per the pediatrician (I don't know for sure, I've not checked it out and don't intend to). When he goes, it hurts because he either has to stretch or tear a little, which causes pain, which causes him to hold until he can't hold any more, which makes it bigger, which makes it hurt...you can see the cycle.

                    We've been told that he will be on stool softener and laxatives until his colon shrinks back to normal size, and that as soon as he eats, he should sit on the potty for at least 15 minutes. Hopefully he will poo during this time. The laxative will hopefully force him to go and retrain his muscles and maybe loosen up the opening a little.

                    The one thing I didn't mention in my original post is that my wife and I both considered trying to free up the impaction ourselves. The doctor even mentioned it. However, we decided not to for a couple of reasons. One, if he ever told anyone about it, no one would believe the truth. Two, and most importantly, if we tried and did something wrong, the consequences would be disasterous. That's something I don't want to live with. When dealing with an output port on someone else, unless it is life and death, let the doctors handle it.

                    Just FYI: When I was about 16, I went with another Boy Scout troop to Philmont. They taught us about this situation and what to do if we were on the trail and had to handle it ourselves. Never had to do it, and hope to never have to.

                    Thanks to all of you for your encouragement. Hopefully this posting and discussion, even though WAAAAY off the usual discussion on the board will help someone else.
                    "It's a dog eat dog world out there, and I'm wearing Milk-Bone underwear."- Norm (from Cheers)

                    Eat beef-because the west wasn't won on salad.

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                    • cgallery
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 4503
                      • Milwaukee, WI
                      • BT3K

                      #11
                      Wow! While it is quite funny to read about the outcome (no pun intended) [okay, well maybe a little pun was intended], the consequences of a backup of this magnitude can be life-threatening. Glad he is okay!

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                      • JSUPreston
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 1189
                        • Montgomery, AL.
                        • Delta 36-979 w/Biesemyere fence kit making it a 36-982. Previous saw was BT3100-1.

                        #12
                        Yeah, I told him while he was in the hospital, and not exactly coherent at the time that he was literally, quite "full of it."

                        We've been to that hospital so much lately that I asked if there was a frequent visitor's discount.
                        "It's a dog eat dog world out there, and I'm wearing Milk-Bone underwear."- Norm (from Cheers)

                        Eat beef-because the west wasn't won on salad.

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                        • billwmeyer
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 1868
                          • Weir, Ks, USA.
                          • BT3000

                          #13
                          Wow, I can't imagine going through that as an adult, let alone as a little one. I hope things get back to normal soon for him.

                          Bill
                          "I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in."-Kenny Rogers

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                          • Uncle Cracker
                            The Full Monte
                            • May 2007
                            • 7091
                            • Sunshine State
                            • BT3000

                            #14
                            Did the docs mention anything about something called Hirschsprung's Disease? Our son had it as a child, and symptoms were similar to your son's. He outgrew it, but took some doing. I understand it's a lot more common than one might imagine.

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                            • JSUPreston
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 1189
                              • Montgomery, AL.
                              • Delta 36-979 w/Biesemyere fence kit making it a 36-982. Previous saw was BT3100-1.

                              #15
                              Uncle C, never heard of it, but I'm reading about it on wikipedia. Thanks for the info!!!!!
                              "It's a dog eat dog world out there, and I'm wearing Milk-Bone underwear."- Norm (from Cheers)

                              Eat beef-because the west wasn't won on salad.

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