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  • radhak
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    #1

    Anybody wanna help Linus Torvalds?

    Linus has filed a bug report :


    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=439858

    note the "Additional info" section:

    This is "high" priority because the wife will kill me if she doesn't have her
    videos. And the adobe player won't install on current rawhide due to some
    library issues.


    It's nice to know that he's human too
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    - Aristotle
  • cgallery
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    #2
    Beyond recomending a good divorce attorney, I'm afraid I'm at a loss.

    Twenty years ago I supported myself as a systems programmer. I slowly moved out of that and about twelve years ago the boom really started to occur. I'm not OO, I don't have any video/audio experience. I have only coded modern GUI via interfaces that made it easy.

    As someone that really tore it up at one time, I really feel quite inadequate.

    There aren't enough hours in the day to learn the new stuff fast enough.

    It seems really exciting. If you don't have a wife, kids, and can stay up all night to work on projects.

    How do these game developers do it? Where do they get the energy? Packs of Oreos won't do it. And the collaborations. Just amazing!

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    • LinuxRandal
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      #3
      I saw a video of both him and RMS at an event. He has always seemed like the normal average joe, and his whole purpose of Linux, was to see if he could do it, for fun, and so he had something that would use more of his system, effectively, then what was available did.
      I see more fanatics, being users, or RMS.
      She couldn't tell the difference between the escape pod, and the bathroom. We had to go back for her.........................Twice.

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      • LinuxRandal
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        #4
        Originally posted by cgallery
        Beyond recomending a good divorce attorney, I'm afraid I'm at a loss.

        Think you could have done that for Han's Reiser?
        She couldn't tell the difference between the escape pod, and the bathroom. We had to go back for her.........................Twice.

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        • smorris
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          • Apr 2003
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          #5
          I'm a BSD guy myself, I only touch Linux under duress.
          --
          Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice

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          • crokett
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            #6
            Reiser? As in Reiser FS? A product I was managing a few years ago discovered a bug in the Linux file system. We discovered when you really slammed the JFSs - Reiser, ext3, etc the journaling couldn't keep up and the system would eventually hang. It took 3 weeks to prove it wasn't my product and that it was reproduceable across all of our storage products. Then a pitch to my boss's boss's boss's boss before we could ship. Even then we had to caveat that if you used JFS in Linux you had to risk a server hang.
            David

            The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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            • cgallery
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              #7
              Originally posted by crokett
              Reiser? As in Reiser FS? A product I was managing a few years ago discovered a bug in the Linux file system. We discovered when you really slammed the JFSs - Reiser, ext3, etc the journaling couldn't keep up and the system would eventually hang. It took 3 weeks to prove it wasn't my product and that it was reproduceable across all of our storage products. Then a pitch to my boss's boss's boss's boss before we could ship. Even then we had to caveat that if you used JFS in Linux you had to risk a server hang.
              Interesting. I imagine it hangs due to a vm "issue" all ix implementations I've ever tested share. Give me console access with a C compiler, and I will crash any ix machine in short order. When I've demonstrated this to ix aficionados they've gone white (mainly because what I do is a somewhat realistic real-world scenario).

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              • LinuxRandal
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                #8
                Originally posted by crokett
                Reiser? As in Reiser FS? .


                Yep, the same. If you haven't heard, he is on trial for his (ex?) wife's murder, and a mutual friend of theirs, who was an exboyfriend of his wife, has confessed to being a serial killer (which isn't allowed in the trial). I believe the trial has been delayed yet again.
                She couldn't tell the difference between the escape pod, and the bathroom. We had to go back for her.........................Twice.

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                • crokett
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by cgallery
                  Interesting. I imagine it hangs due to a vm "issue" all ix implementations I've ever tested share. ).
                  As I recall it was a memory leak in the code that keeps the jfs log. The reason we had to fight so hard to ship was if it hung this could corrupt the journal and risk data integrity. My company is very sensitive to data integrity.
                  David

                  The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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                  • cgallery
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by crokett
                    As I recall it was a memory leak in the code that keeps the jfs log. The reason we had to fight so hard to ship was if it hung this could corrupt the journal and risk data integrity. My company is very sensitive to data integrity.
                    Yep, a bad memory leak can bring ix to its knees. Ix doesn't actually "allocate" RAM until it is written. Compounding the problem, ix will allow you to "reserve" more virtual memory than it can provide. So an app that emulates a memory leak by "allocating" all the virtual memory that ix will allow and then tries to write to that memory will eventually result in the swapper consuming 100% of the CPU time.

                    The result is a machine that looks like it is hung, and for intents and purposes, it is. Even if you've previously logged in, you can't shut the machine down because the swapper is so busy the machine can't respond to input. All you can do is cut the power to it.
                    Last edited by cgallery; 04-04-2008, 02:30 PM.

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                    • radhak
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by LinuxRandal
                      Yep, the same. If you haven't heard, he is on trial for his (ex?) wife's murder, and a mutual friend of theirs, who was an exboyfriend of his wife, has confessed to being a serial killer (which isn't allowed in the trial). I believe the trial has been delayed yet again.
                      Whatever I have followed about it gives me the creeps : (a) either the wife had this planned for long to set him up - she got Russian citizenship for her kids secretly, even planning for her mother to come all the way over to pick the kids up, and then she disappeared. Even her serial-killer-friend (how convenient is that?) left her messages to suggest he could help her to 'get away from anything for a while'. (b) or, he really did knock her out when he found out her plans to decamp to Russia with his kids.
                      The grandmother, meanwhile, has managed to get the kids out of the country in such a way that they have to stay in Russia, whether they want to or not !

                      Anyway, away from such juicy stories and back to the OP : it's really funny to see the heavy-duty activity on the thread Linus started. A lot of big guys are out there, with Fedora's team doing a sort of impromptu 'serve and protect' oath, tacky as it is !
                      It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
                      - Aristotle

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