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  • crokett
    The Full Monte
    • Jan 2003
    • 10627
    • Mebane, NC, USA.
    • Ryobi BT3000

    #1

    Question on TV Inputs

    We got a flatscreen TV to replace the dinky 19" CRT one in the living room. Old TV had DVD player hooked up to aux video, satellite receiver hooked into VCR coax in and coax out on VCR going to TV coax in. New TV has no coax. It has S-video in, r/w/y audio/video in and composite (RGB) video in. Coax is all that works on the VCR so right now satellite is hooked to r/w/y video in on TV. Is there a way to convert this or coax to RGB? So I can get the DVD and VCR hooked up? Is there a source selector I can get? Is it time to upgrade the satellite receiver?
    David

    The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.
  • pacwind3
    Established Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 257
    • Vancouver, WA
    • Bosch 4100

    #2
    You'd have to get a converter box for the VCR. I think they sell for like $20 from walmart.
    Honestly though, I'd toss the VCR, they are becoming an antique fast. Just my opinion though.

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    • guycox
      Established Member
      • Dec 2003
      • 360
      • Romulak, VA, USA.

      #3
      Then it's a monitor -- if there's no Coax than there's no way for RF to get into the box and if there's no tuner -- it's a monitor.

      But, if there's a channel changer, there has to be an RF input. ( somplace ).


      It may be hidden behind an apperance panel -- What is the make/model.
      Guy Cox

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      • Kristofor
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2004
        • 1331
        • Twin Cities, MN
        • Jet JTAS10 Cabinet Saw

        #4
        Originally posted by crokett
        New TV has no coax. It has S-video in, r/w/y audio/video in and composite (RGB) video in. Coax is all that works on the VCR so right now satellite is hooked to r/w/y video in on TV. Is there a way to convert this or coax to RGB? So I can get the DVD and VCR hooked up? Is there a source selector I can get? Is it time to upgrade the satellite receiver?
        A composite video input is generally the yellow connector you were talking about and the "RGB" connections are component connections.

        Generally the best quality image will be from component, then composite, and lowest from rf coax.

        I'm not 100% sure I can tell which connections your various devices have. I think it's like this:

        VCR - In:Coax Out:Coax
        DVD - In: Nothing Out:Coax (normally this would also have composite, svideo, Component, or HDMI depending on the vintage, even the 1st and 2nd gen players had one or more of these)
        Sat - In: (nothing/sat cables) Out: Coax, Composite

        Are you trying to record from the DVD player to the VCR? If you're not trying to record, then a new $30 DVD player will likely have the component connection higher quality video, and a $50 dollar model will likely do upconverting for even better picture quality if your new TV is an HD set.

        If you are trying to record and playback VHS still, it may be time to re-evaluate... VHS is going the way of the dodo and the 8-track, keeping a player for existing material makes sense for some folks, but it's probably about time to stop putting new content there... If you're dead set on doing that a combo DVD/VCR unit is under $100. Or you can use your existing parts and cobble together composite/RF adapters (~$15-20 ea.) going each way, plus cabling, and have a lower quality picture with more of a wiring mess... This is not the approach I would use...

        Kristofor.

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        • crokett
          The Full Monte
          • Jan 2003
          • 10627
          • Mebane, NC, USA.
          • Ryobi BT3000

          #5
          Make and Model is Olevia 323-S13. I don't see anywhere on it that it has coax in but you can change the channel on it, I know that.

          Here are the specs.
          http://www.olevia.com/en-us/Products...ReadyTV.aspx#2

          VCR has coax in/out and composite in/out but the composite doesn't work.
          DVD player has composite out and s-video out.
          Sat. receiver has coax, s-video and composite out

          TV has VGA, composite, s-video and component in.

          My wife has been making noises about a DVD recorder/VCR combo so the connection question may be moot. We will see. It'd be nice to watch DVDs though.
          Last edited by crokett; 03-19-2008, 09:37 PM.
          David

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          • JR
            The Full Monte
            • Feb 2004
            • 5636
            • Eugene, OR
            • BT3000

            #6
            I've grown into an A/V neanderthal these days. I was at Sis's on Sunday, where BIL showed is recently upgraded system. He had just bought a new tuner and BluRay player connected to digital TV. Everything was hooked up via HDMI cables. One cable for each component. No muss, no fuss.

            Something to strive for, I guess.

            JR
            JR

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            • poolhound
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              • Mar 2006
              • 3196
              • Phoenix, AZ
              • BT3100

              #7
              David,

              I cant help with the coax issue but I do have a video switch unit that will switch 4 inputs to either of 2 outputs. it can take composite or s-video in and out. I used it with my old TV setup that only had one s-video input. I had a VCR, satelite and DVD going through it to the TV. It also switches the audio. I havent used it since I upgraded to an HD TV last year. It worked fine when I stopped using it but its been in a closet ever since.

              Check out this link.

              http://www.avdeals.com/svs4.htm

              I think it orginally cost me around $170. I was going to put it on CL for $50. If you want it, its yours for $30 + P&P.

              PM me if you are interested or want more info.

              Jon
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              • poolhound
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2006
                • 3196
                • Phoenix, AZ
                • BT3100

                #8
                Originally posted by crokett
                Make and Model is Olevia 323-S13. I don't see anywhere on it that it has coax in but you can change the channel on it, I know that.

                Here are the specs.
                http://www.olevia.com/en-us/Products...ReadyTV.aspx#2

                VCR has coax in/out and composite in/out but the composite doesn't work.
                DVD player has composite out and s-video out.
                Sat. receiver has coax, s-video and composite out

                TV has VGA, composite, s-video and component in.

                My wife has been making noises about a DVD recorder/VCR combo so the connection question may be moot. We will see. It'd be nice to watch DVDs though.
                Unless you have a specific reason to copy lots of VHS tapes to DVD I would advise against one of these combo units. Most are really poor quality (IMHO).

                FWIW I also have a high end upscaling DVD player for sale. It was my birthday last week and LOML bought me a playstation 3. Its a game system, blue-ray HD dvd player, CD player, digital media player and web browser all in one neat little package. So now I have no use for my current DVD player or media player.
                Jon

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                • Anna
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2006
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                  • CA, USA.
                  • BT3100

                  #9
                  Maybe you should get a receiver like this Onkyo.

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                  • cabinetman
                    Gone but not Forgotten RIP
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 15216
                    • So. Florida
                    • Delta

                    #10
                    I've got a similar problem. We won a LCD HDTV. What we had before was a very simple hookup. Coax in to satellite box, out to VCR, out to TV. The new TV does have a coax in, but it isn't receptive. The hookup directions explain how to hookup a VCR for playback, but not recording.

                    We didn't sign up for HD service as the picture we get is incredibly different than the set it replaced. The only way I could get both picture and sound was to use an S video from the satellite receiver, and audio cables. There were 7 source choices from the "menu", and lo and behold one was for S Video.

                    So, I still can't record or get a good picture from VCR.
                    .
                    Last edited by cabinetman; 03-20-2008, 03:23 AM.

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                    • RAV2
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                      • Aug 2007
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                      #11
                      Page 16 of the manual at the link you supplied identifies the rear panel inputs for models 320 - 323 (you state you have a 323). At the bottom if the left graphic shows the TV / Antenna RF input?????

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                      • RayintheUK
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                        • Sep 2003
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                        #12
                        Well spotted, RAV2! I wondered about the size of the RF input as shown compared to the audio inputs, etc., but on the previous page is this picture (click to enlarge):

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                        which shows it to be a coaxial connection, but probably a threaded one (BNC?).

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                        • crokett
                          The Full Monte
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 10627
                          • Mebane, NC, USA.
                          • Ryobi BT3000

                          #13
                          *edit*

                          I called Olevia

                          Julienne (with a very nice French accent ) says the 323 models don't have the coax input. She will look into why the manual says they do.

                          Jon, thanks for the offer and I will think about it.

                          The quality of VHS to DVD is not critical. Mostly I want to get rid of the 1001 VHS tapes my daughters have.
                          Last edited by crokett; 03-20-2008, 07:30 AM.
                          David

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                          • ironhat
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                            • Aug 2004
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                            • Chambersburg, PA (South-central).
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by crokett
                            *edit*

                            <snip>

                            The quality of VHS to DVD is not critical. Mostly I want to get rid of the 1001 VHS tapes my daughters have.
                            Boy, isn't that the truth! I have scads of Disney VHS that my girls and now, my grandkids *love* to watch. What the heck am I supposed to do? Trash them and buy again? I am **so** frustrated with this and, in part, it is fueled by the persistance of the LOML who wants **something** done. Like what? Oooooo...
                            Blessings,
                            Chiz

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                            • poolhound
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                              • Mar 2006
                              • 3196
                              • Phoenix, AZ
                              • BT3100

                              #15
                              Originally posted by crokett
                              *edit*

                              I called Olevia

                              Julienne (with a very nice French accent ) says the 323 models don't have the coax input. She will look into why the manual says they do.

                              Jon, thanks for the offer and I will think about it.

                              The quality of VHS to DVD is not critical. Mostly I want to get rid of the 1001 VHS tapes my daughters have.
                              Not sure how old she is now but with ours (she is now 22) we just took the few she watched re bought them on DVD and then the VHS tapes went in a yard sale. Its amazing how folks will picke them up for .50 or even $1. 1001 tapes thats $500 - sounds like more clamps
                              Jon

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