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  • crokett
    The Full Monte
    • Jan 2003
    • 10627
    • Mebane, NC, USA.
    • Ryobi BT3000

    #1

    Dirty Jobs

    On the show I watched last night Mike was doing blown-in cellulose insulation. I've done it a couple times but only on horizontal (attic/over garage) applications. This crew was blowing it onto walls pre-drywall, then shaving off the excess flush to the studs. Is there some sort of binder/additive that is added to make it stick?
    David

    The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.
  • jspelbring
    Established Member
    • Nov 2004
    • 167
    • Belleville, IL, USA.
    • Craftsman 22114

    #2
    Insulation

    I'd be interested in the answer. Because of "weird" framing (16" OC? What's that?), blown/sprayed is the only way that I can think of to insulate the walls of my soon-to-be shop nee garage.

    Originally posted by crokett
    On the show I watched last night Mike was doing blown-in cellulose insulation. I've done it a couple times but only on horizontal (attic/over garage) applications. This crew was blowing it onto walls pre-drywall, then shaving off the excess flush to the studs. Is there some sort of binder/additive that is added to make it stick?
    To do is to be.

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    • crokett
      The Full Monte
      • Jan 2003
      • 10627
      • Mebane, NC, USA.
      • Ryobi BT3000

      #3
      Originally posted by jspelbring
      I'd be interested in the answer. Because of "weird" framing (16" OC? What's that?), .
      Took me a minute - at first I thought you were saying 16" OC framing was weird.
      David

      The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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      • Tom Slick
        Veteran Member
        • May 2005
        • 2913
        • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
        • sears BT3 clone

        #4
        The water makes it stick. wet paper is naturally sticky, think spit wads.


        here is a link
        http://www.umass.edu/bmatwt/publicat...nsulation.html
        Last edited by Tom Slick; 12-18-2007, 01:27 PM. Reason: added link
        Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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        • docrowan
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 893
          • New Albany, MS
          • BT3100

          #5
          Water makes it stick, water and air make it "fluid" to wrap around pipes, cable, boxes, etc. It's mainly recycled newspaper with flame retardants added. Supposed to be a very environmentally friendly option as opposed to fiberglass.
          - Chris.

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          • L. D. Jeffries
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2005
            • 747
            • Russell, NY, USA.
            • Ryobi BT3000

            #6
            My w/w friend did some remodeling in his 150 yr old house last summer. The stuff you are talking about is 10 times more efficient than fiber glass. It fills all the cracks and voids that f/g has to be packed around. Its a hoot to watch them; spray it on, over the tops of the studs and all, then use an electric roller/shaver to bring it level to the studs. He had some blown lose in the attic, about 15"'s worth. Great stuff! What would have taken a couple of days was done in one morning.
            RuffSawn
            Nothin' smells better than fresh sawdust!

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            • dkhoward
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2003
              • 873
              • Lubbock, Texas, USA.
              • bt3000

              #7
              There is a company here doing the same sort of thing with ground up denim (yeah, levi's et. al.). Same process, same concept. Fire retardent, fills the voids, they sweep up the stuff they trim off and reuse it. They buy a lot of the material from denim factories as waste and recycle it.

              Do any of you watch Holmes on Homes. They use a lot of foam insulation, blue in color that they spray on. I cant find any information about it in this part of the country, but it looks like a **** of a good product
              Dennis K Howard
              www.geocities.com/dennishoward
              "An elephant is nothing more than a mouse built to government specifications." Robert A Heinlein

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              • Tom Slick
                Veteran Member
                • May 2005
                • 2913
                • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
                • sears BT3 clone

                #8
                I've used the denim batts and they are very good. it insulates sound very well, is somewhat easy to install, environmentally friendly, and most importantly NO ITCH!!

                expanding foam is really good insulation because it creates a complete seal in the wall cavity.
                Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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                • BrianWillan
                  Forum Newbie
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 13
                  • Oshawa, Ontario, Canada.

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dkhoward
                  Do any of you watch Holmes on Homes. They use a lot of foam insulation, blue in color that they spray on. I cant find any information about it in this part of the country, but it looks like a **** of a good product
                  The foam that is used on that show is BASF Walltite. It is generically known as closed cell polyurethane spray foam.

                  In the episode they did out in California, they insulated with that Blue Jean cotton insulation. Holmes really liked that product.

                  Cheers

                  Brian

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                  • reddog552
                    Established Member
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 245
                    • Belleville Il.
                    • Bt3000

                    #10
                    Foam insulation

                    I have a friend who has a motorcycle shop. He is quite tight in the pockets.Took packing peanuts from shipping boxes put them in attic over garage. year or two later they were all blown into one corner.saved a doller made a mess.
                    The bitterness of poor quality lingers long after the sweetness of low cost is forgotten!

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                    • gary
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2004
                      • 893
                      • Versailles, KY, USA.

                      #11
                      How does this stuff compare in price to fiberglass batts? I need to do my garage shop ceiling in the next couple of weeks and am trying to decide what to put up there.
                      Gary

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                      • Tom Slick
                        Veteran Member
                        • May 2005
                        • 2913
                        • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
                        • sears BT3 clone

                        #12
                        Fiberglass batts are the cheapest option but have the minimum performance of what has been mentioned.
                        anything that is sprayed in is better then batts because it fills every crevice so you get less air intrusion. you also don't have the paper backing to feed mold. the denim material is similar performance to fiberglass batts, costs twice as much, but has no itch and has significantly better sound deadening.
                        Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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