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  • cabinetman
    Gone but not Forgotten RIP
    • Jun 2006
    • 15216
    • So. Florida
    • Delta

    #1

    How To Steal From The Boss

    Cabinet and woodworking shops are a unique source of supply to a thief. I use mainly Blum hinges and plates and order in bulk (250 to a case) about once a month, of the types used most, along with mounting plates of different types.

    I had one employee who wore baggy carpenters pants with the big pockets. Every day, he would stash hinges in the pockets. There were many cabinet shops in the area and he would sell them for a fraction of the cost. I never found out how much he got, but it was probably less than a dollar each, which is a "steal". Another employee "ratted" out on him. I probably would have never found out otherwise.

    Hand and power tools just "disappear". For bulky items, they would get stashed outside, like the dumpster, or in the DC hopper until closing. Then they would return to retrieve whatever was there. I've caught them after dark. Some of the favorites were the PC 309 routers, and the PC 3 x 24 belt sanders. Went through many of those along with Bosch cordless drills, and they also managed to grab the chargers.

    Hand tool favorites were chisels, block planes, tape measures, magnetic screwdrivers, and files. I don't require that employees have their own tools, maybe I should. Some shops did. I knew of one shop that had a lock up for tools and supplies, and had "user" tags. Supplies had to be "let" out. It's difficult to control the actual loss without all that security.

    Maybe needing the money had something to do with the thefts. I think it was more of seeing what they can get away with.

    I remember on one Army base there was a mess sergeant that was caught selling meat from the kitchen. It took a while for him to get caught. No article 15, he got a Court Martial.

    I remember a story about a factory worker that stole what was either a long extension cord or just wire. He got caught just outside the guard gate when he collapsed. He had wrapped his torso by coiling it. By the time he got to the gate, it had tightened and made him pass out. Ooops, another Darwin award.
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  • eccentrictinkerer
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 669
    • Minneapolis, MN
    • BT-3000, 21829

    #2
    When we owned a coffee shop, we had an unexplained increase in the number of Whippit cartridges used for making whipped cream.

    This went on for a couple of weeks until one of our employees told us that they were used to "sniff" the nitrous oxide used as a propellent.

    We went to the supermarket whipped cream cans and the problem stopped.

    Anybody need two Whippit canisters and a box of cartridges?


    Also, my Dad told me story about guards at a military base that would stop a civilian who left everyday with a wheelbarrow full of straw. The guard would stop the guy and check to make sure there was nothing but straw in the wheelbarrow.

    It took several weeks to figure out that the guy was stealing wheelbarrows!
    You might think I haven't contributed much to the world, but a large number
    of the warning labels on tools can be traced back to things I've done...

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    • eezlock
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2006
      • 997
      • Charlotte,N.C.
      • BT3100

      #3
      how to steal from the boss

      I have always been of the opinion that employees need to furnish their own
      hand tools and smaller power tools. The boss or shop would furnish the larger stationary power tools.

      In some commercial/industrial envinronments the company would have a tool room in a caged or locked room, each user of the tools would have to sign them in /out or each time they were needed to do a job. That way it would be hard for the tools to disappear or just plain walk off. Any missing tools would have to be replaced at the employee's expense.

      When I worked in electrical construction we had to furnish our own hand tools the company furnished all the bigger tools. eezlock

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      • Uncle Cracker
        The Full Monte
        • May 2007
        • 7091
        • Sunshine State
        • BT3000

        #4
        In a similar context, many companies furnish tool kits to their employees, with the caveat that anything that turned up missing would be replaced by the employees themselves, or by the company, and deducted from the employee's pay. The exception would be breakage or wearout, whereby the employee could get free replacements from the company by turning in the broken tool for the exchange. This system seems to be a good compromise, since the workers don't have to lay out the initial cash, but still have incentive to protect the tools for which they are responsible, and the company is not liable for costs due to pilferage. Parts, such as the cabinet hinges, could be dealt with similarly by giving each employee his own "inventory" and deducting only those parts used in each project, with the employee liable for any other shortages.

        Seems like a lot of hassle to administer, but the losses from unmonitored thefts can be staggering.

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        • Rounder
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2003
          • 1287
          • Sanford, FL, USA.
          • BT3100

          #5
          I come from an ironworker family and everyone had toos and belts marked AB. I found out that it used to be the practice for a new ironworker go to work for American Bridge. They would be issued the spud wrenches, bolt bags, belt etc. They would work the day and then quit and keep the tools. But, they wouldn't pick up the day's wages that were owed to them, so it was a wash.

          To this day, most ironworkers have at least one tool marked "AB".
          George AKA Rounder

          "Amarillo Slim, the greatist proposition gambler of all time held to his father's maxim; You can shear a sheep many times, but you can skin him only once."

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          • Rob R
            Established Member
            • Jan 2004
            • 256
            • West, Michigan.

            #6
            most employee theft comes from opportunity. give the opportunity and people will steal from you. some of the safegaurds listed are great ideas. i don't think it has much to do with the idea of "needing money"

            rob

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            • germdoc
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2003
              • 3567
              • Omaha, NE
              • BT3000--the gray ghost

              #7
              Reminds me of sumpin'...

              Artist: Cash Johnny
              Song: One Piece At A Time
              Album: The Essential Johnny Cash Buy Johnny Cash Sheet Music
              Buy Johnny Cash CDs

              Well, I left Kentucky back in '49
              An' went to Detroit workin' on a 'sembly line
              The first year they had me puttin' wheels on cadillacs.

              Every day I'd watch them beauties roll by
              And sometimes I'd hang my head and cry
              'Cause I always wanted me one that was long and black.

              One day I devised myself a plan
              That should be the envy of most any man
              I'd sneak it out of there in a lunchbox in my hand
              Now gettin' caught meant gettin' fired
              But I figured I'd have it all by the time I retired
              I'd have me a car worth at least a hundred grand.

              CHORUS
              I'd get it one piece at a time
              And it wouldn't cost me a dime
              You'll know it's me when I come through your town
              I'm gonna ride around in style
              I'm gonna drive everybody wild
              'Cause I'll have the only one there is a round.

              So the very next day when I punched in
              With my big lunchbox and with help from my friends
              I left that day with a lunch box full of gears
              Now, I never considered myself a thief
              GM wouldn't miss just one little piece
              Especially if I strung it out over several years.

              The first day I got me a fuel pump
              And the next day I got me an engine and a trunk
              Then I got me a transmission and all of the chrome
              The little things I could get in my big lunchbox
              Like nuts, an' bolts, and all four shocks
              But the big stuff we snuck out in my buddy's mobile home.

              Now, up to now my plan went all right
              'Til we tried to put it all together one night
              And that's when we noticed that something was definitely wrong.

              The transmission was a '53
              And the motor turned out to be a '73
              And when we tried to put in the bolts all the holes were gone.

              So we drilled it out so that it would fit
              And with a little bit of help with an A-daptor kit
              We had that engine runnin' just like a song
              Now the headlight' was another sight
              We had two on the left and one on the right
              But when we pulled out the switch all three of 'em come on.

              The back end looked kinda funny too
              But we put it together and when we got thru
              Well, that's when we noticed that we only had one tail-fin
              About that time my wife walked out
              And I could see in her eyes that she had her doubts
              But she opened the door and said "Honey, take me for a spin."

              So we drove up town just to get the tags
              And I headed her right on down main drag
              I could hear everybody laughin' for blocks around
              But up there at the court house they didn't laugh
              'Cause to type it up it took the whole staff
              And when they got through the title weighed sixty pounds.

              CHORUS
              I got it one piece at a time
              And it didn't cost me a dime
              You'll know it's me when I come through your town
              I'm gonna ride around in style
              I'm gonna drive everybody wild
              'Cause I'll have the only one there is around.
              Jeff


              “Doctors are men who prescribe medicines of which they know little, to cure diseases of which they know less, in human beings of whom they know nothing”--Voltaire

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              • cgallery
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2004
                • 4503
                • Milwaukee, WI
                • BT3K

                #8
                I own a computer store, with lots of little parts that can be quite expensive and easy to conceal. I think I've only had one or two employees that didn't swipe something occasionally. Now days it is just myself and my wife, and the shrinkage is limited to what "customers" can snag (not much because we make it pretty hard).

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                • Tom Slick
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2005
                  • 2913
                  • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
                  • sears BT3 clone

                  #9
                  My first real job was at a deli/convenience/liquor store. the employees ate everything they felt like eating whenever a manager wasn't in the store. My second real job was at a well stocked auto parts store. we had a long term employee that was "warrantying" parts out to his buddies. at that time we only had to account for parts that could be rebuilt, so he would give out spark plug wires, brake parts, etc by writing them up as warranty replacements. it took the company about 2 months of investigation to find out exactly what was happening, now everything that is warranty gets accounted for.

                  auto mechanics supply their own tools and the shop usually supplies the big specialty equipment. by law if you require your employee to supply their own tools or uniforms then you must pay at least double minimum wage. what most places do is have a community set of junk tools that everyone can use but nobody wants to. then you pay them less and they still supply their own tools.
                  Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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                  • billwmeyer
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 1868
                    • Weir, Ks, USA.
                    • BT3000

                    #10
                    One major tool that helps theft is clear trash bags. One of the oldest tricks of an employee is to put stuff in trash bags and then pull it out of the dumpster after dark. Clear trash bags are a little more expensive, but pay for themselves in a hurry. I think Sam's club carriest them, and some janitorial supply houses.

                    Employee theft is one of the most frustrating things to deal with. It does slow down when you have one of them arrested, and they leave in handcuffs.
                    Bill
                    "I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in."-Kenny Rogers

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                    • Jeffrey Schronce
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 3822
                      • York, PA, USA.
                      • 22124

                      #11
                      Originally posted by eccentrictinkerer
                      Anybody need two Whippit canisters and a box of cartridges
                      No I have two canisters but I could use the whippets . . .

                      What a blast from the past. We used to abuse the crap out of those things!

                      Guess the perps didn't figure out you can just slightly depress the top of the whipped cream can and get the nitrous out of them as well? DAMHIKT!

                      Yes, I had a spotty past!

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                      • germdoc
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 3567
                        • Omaha, NE
                        • BT3000--the gray ghost

                        #12
                        That reminds me of another song:

                        Crack that whip.
                        Give the past the slip.
                        Step on a crack.
                        Break your momma's back.

                        When a problem comes along.
                        You must whip it.
                        Before the cream sits out too long.
                        You must whip it.
                        When something's going wrong.
                        You must whip it.

                        now whip it.
                        into shape.
                        shape it up.
                        get straight.
                        go forward.
                        move ahead.
                        try to detect it.
                        it's not too late.
                        to whip it.
                        whip it good.

                        When a good time turns around.
                        You must whip it.
                        You will never live it down.
                        Unless you whip it.
                        No one gets their way.
                        Until they whip it.

                        I say whip it.
                        Whip it good. x2

                        Chorus

                        Whip it gooooooood.
                        Jeff


                        “Doctors are men who prescribe medicines of which they know little, to cure diseases of which they know less, in human beings of whom they know nothing”--Voltaire

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