Can You Think In 3-D?

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  • crokett
    The Full Monte
    • Jan 2003
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    • Mebane, NC, USA.
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    #1

    Can You Think In 3-D?

    I cannot. I am learning this (again) with this kitchen bench. I have a brother who can. He decided one day he wanted to try chainsaw carving so he went and got my dad's chainsaw, pulled a log off the pile and a little later there was a rabbit sitting on a stump. The first time he tried weaving he wove a horse's head. It ended up hanging in a national exhibit in DC.
    David

    The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.
  • Ed62
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    • Oct 2006
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    #2
    I think that's called visualization. He had quite an accomplishment!

    Ed
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    • gsmittle
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      • Aug 2004
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      #3
      That's an interesting question....

      I remember reading about some sculptor (Michelangelo?) who said the statue was in the marble, all he did was remove the non-statue parts. Or words to that effect.

      I've been directing live theatre long enough to visualize how particular groups of actors should look on the stage, but I usually change things three or four times in the process of rehearsal. (I tell all my actors to bring a pencil and BIG eraser.)

      I can see what I want in my mind's eye, but often I'm not sure how to get there.....

      Maybe that's what separates the artists from the artistans....

      g.
      Smit

      "Be excellent to each other."
      Bill & Ted

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      • ironhat
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        #4
        Originally posted by gsmittle
        Maybe that's what separates the artists from the artistans....

        g.
        Well put, g. In addition to thinking in 3-D you have to be able to think of removing the 'negative' space and leaving the 'positive'. For myself, I have trouble remembering to leave the things in the foreground or anything that would protrude before I get to the actual object. For instance, if carving a sitting cat you would need to leave the tail wrapped around the front paws. I don't know if that's very clear. I seem to be rambling lately.
        Blessings,
        Chiz

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        • cabinetman
          Gone but not Forgotten RIP
          • Jun 2006
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          #5
          Maybe a pair of these would help:

          Ed was on the right track. That quality is a type of visualization, along with a sense of perspective. Conceptualizing can also be thrown into the mix. I have a friend that never took an art class. He started to draw and got into acrylics, and he is just a natural artist. I would hang his art in any one of your homes. I think of it as an innate talent that those that have it have the opportunity to find out. What's a shame are all those individuals who may never know.
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          • leehljp
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            • Dec 2002
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            #6
            Interesting question. Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. I have carved a few things and amazed myself and friends. I "see" things before I build or make them all in my mind. Scaling the size up or down is not a problem. Often, my greatest problem is getting my hands to do what I "see".

            Taking the "vision" thing a step farther - I prefer reading books to seeing a movie as my mind is much more active than the screen. Lately, some computer enhanced movie scenes have begun to come close; however, in my mind's eye, it is still much better there.
            Hank Lee

            Experience is what you get when you don't get what you wanted!

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            • crokett
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              • Jan 2003
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              #7
              Visualization - thanks Ed! Anyhoo, he is taking a 2 year woodworking course. I am still a little better technically and in terms of skill but he has a LOT more potential, especially on the design side.
              David

              The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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              • Uncle Cracker
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                • May 2007
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                #8
                I can definitely think in DDD... Happens every time I see Jennifer Tilley on poker TV...

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                • RodKirby
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                  • Dec 2002
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                  #9
                  Well I don't carve, but I do seem to be blessed with 3D visualization.

                  I do recall breezing thru Technical drawing at High School (50 years ago)

                  I have an acquaintance who doesn't - and trying to explain something to him in a 2D drawing is just about impossible.

                  I usually spin a new jig around in my head for days, before I put pencil to paper
                  Downunder ... 1" = 25.4mm

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                  • Tom Slick
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                    #10
                    I have no problem visualizing in 3-d, but I don't think I have the talents of your brother.
                    Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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                    • cabinetman
                      Gone but not Forgotten RIP
                      • Jun 2006
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Uncle Cracker
                      I can definitely think in DDD... Happens every time I see Jennifer Tilley on poker TV...


                      BACK UP THE TRUCK: IMO - Jennifer Tilley = double D. In addition to that earth shattering revelation, she impairs my ability to think. Maybe it's that "pillow talk" voice.
                      .

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                      • Uncle Cracker
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                        • May 2007
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by cabinetman
                        BACK UP THE TRUCK: IMO - Jennifer Tilley = double D. In addition to that earth shattering revelation, she impairs my ability to think. Maybe it's that "pillow talk" voice.
                        She has a voice??? Gotta dig any woman who will actually beat me to the poker game...

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                        • crokett
                          The Full Monte
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 10627
                          • Mebane, NC, USA.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Tom Slick
                          I have no problem visualizing in 3-d, but I don't think I have the talents of your brother.
                          Nobody (living) in my family does. My grandfather and great-grandfather did. My parents have a Christmas tree stand that is a scale model of the house my mom grew up in. It was a Christmas gift from my great-grandfather. My mom still remembers the day one fall that he came over and walked all over the house just looking. She says he wrote a couple things down but didn't take any measurements.
                          David

                          The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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                          • jseklund
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                            • Aug 2006
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                            #14
                            Crockett- Sounds like you have a very talented family there- yourself included. While no one in your living family may have the ability that your brother seems to have, I don't think many people period have that ability and I am sure you are a better woodworker from what I've seen than most.

                            I CAN think in 3-D. I'm not going to claim it's easy. Sometimes there may be a little piece of something I have to stop and spin around a few times before I see it right in my head. I also visualize rough ideas and then in reality the idea hits a bump because I didn't think of something. I cannot carve and am a marginal woodworker though....still a lot to learn.

                            I'm reminded of Stephen Hawking talking about string theory. He suggests that some people think there are as many as 11 dimensions. He then says, "I have a hard enough time thinking in 3 dimensions, nevermind 11."
                            F#$@ no good piece of S#$% piece of #$@#% #@$#% #$@#$ wood! Dang. - Me woodworking

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                            • MilDoc

                              #15
                              Shoot. I have trouble thinking in 2-D! I measure 3-4 times and still get it wrong sometimes!

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