Why I Hate So Many People In This Pathetic State . . . .

[Jeffrey Schronce]

From Ebay . . .

"You may have heard the Pennsylvania State Board of Auctioneer Examiners is lobbying for eBay sellers to be licensed under the state's outdated Auctioneer Licensing statute. In fact, one eBay seller has already been forced out of business because of attorney fees incurred while fighting the State Board and the potential of huge fines if the Board ruled against him. Without swift action by the eBay Community and the Pennsylvania legislature, your eBay sales could also be at risk."

You have GOT to be kidding me. I absolutely despise how so many people in this state generally whore the laws to fit their stupid, selfish pocket books! This particular issue makes me wish I had never went to a live auction! Come on you idiots, learn to compete.

Thank you for listening.

[MilDoc]

They are threatened.

They sue.

Only in America.

[Uncle Cracker]

If you think bending the laws to benefit one's point of view and, more importantly, their pocketbook, is limited to the state of Pennsylvania, you need to get out more.

This goes on everywhere, and there's no end in sight. Just look in your Yellow Pages and see how thick the section for "Attorneys" is.

[ragswl4]

From Ebay . . .

"You may have heard the Pennsylvania State Board of Auctioneer Examiners is lobbying for eBay sellers to be licensed under the state's outdated Auctioneer Licensing statute. In fact, one eBay seller has already been forced out of business because of attorney fees incurred while fighting the State Board and the potential of huge fines if the Board ruled against him. Without swift action by the eBay Community and the Pennsylvania legislature, your eBay sales could also be at risk."

You have GOT to be kidding me. I absolutely despise how so many people in this state generally whore the laws to fit their stupid, selfish pocket books! This particular issue makes me wish I had never went to a live auction! Come on you idiots, learn to compete.

Thank you for listening.

Are you sure you aren't living in California? That sounds like some hair brained thing they would do here. How about this: If you get caught driving without a license they used to impound your car for 30 days, but in LA the city council said "Hey wait, those people need their cars to get to work, stop impounding their cars". I'll give you one guess as to who the most common person is that is driving without a license in California. What's the chance that those same folks don't have insurance? We are going to hades in a handcart.

[Jeffrey Schronce]

If you think bending the laws to benefit one's point of view and, more importantly, their pocketbook, is limited to the state of Pennsylvania, you need to get out more.

This goes on everywhere, and there's no end in sight. Just look in your Yellow Pages and see how thick the section for "Attorneys" is.

I've been out. I've dealt with litigation in many states, PA, MA, NJ, NY, FL, NC, CA, MI. PA/NJ/MA makes everyone else look like a joke. The saving grace is that some people in other states don't feel like they are entitiled to wealth because something went wrong in their life. There is such a sense of entitlement in Philly/NJ/NY/Boston. Any time your law schools outnumber your medical schools two to one you are in trouble.

[Uncle Cracker]

There is such a sense of entitlement in Philly/NJ/NY/Boston.

You've hit on a possible answer. Maybe it's less about law and more about attitude.

[TB Roye]

As a life long resident of California and Sacramento, don't get me started on the pinheads in the capitol building. It is too political. Term limit made it even worse.

Tom

[Hellrazor]

Anything to make $$$ is the PA motto. When lawyers + politicians get together, you know someone is going to get screwed.

[Jeffrey Schronce]

Boy, that was quite a rant I went on yesterday! Thanks for listening guys!

I guess that is what happens when you have 3 times more law schools than medical schools in a state!

[jackellis]

f you think bending the laws to benefit one's point of view and, more importantly, their pocketbook, is limited to the state of Pennsylvania, you need to get out more.

This goes on everywhere, and there's no end in sight. Just look in your Yellow Pages and see how thick the section for "Attorneys" is.

I work in the energy industry. In California no less. You would not believe the stuff that gets written into law and the thin pretexts upon which people sue.

A firm I represent is trying, along with its competitors, to contain a sweetheart deal cut by someone with influence. We got a favorable ruling from a judge, but one of the final decision-makers had "concerns". Amazingly enough, the charade around those "concerns" is an open secret.

Makes me feel like a chump sometimes for trying to do things the right way.

[Russianwolf]

well, it seems to me all they'd be able to do is to have EBAY get an auctioneers licence. The person selling is'nt the auctioneer. It would be like going to any other auction. The auction house is licensed and cunducts the event, while the sellers just agree to abide by the outcome.

I don't think they have much of a case unless they want to start making all auction sellers (at every auction house in the state) get a license.

[Jeffrey Schronce]

well, it seems to me all they'd be able to do is to have EBAY get an auctioneers licence. The person selling is'nt the auctioneer. It would be like going to any other auction. The auction house is licensed and cunducts the event, while the sellers just agree to abide by the outcome.

I don't think they have much of a case unless they want to start making all auction sellers (at every auction house in the state) get a license.

Very good point. Such an obvious point that one fears that the state may have overlooked this point!

And Ebay *should* likely have appropriate licensing in each state it operates in.

[Russianwolf]

Very good point. Such an obvious point that one fears that the state may have overlooked this point!

And Ebay *should* likely have appropriate licensing in each state it operates in.

well, it's a completely LOGICAL point, which is why it may not work for the government.

And since Ebay doesn't technically operate in any state (which state is the internet in?) that may be why they haven't already done so. But that's getting into really grey areas.

Now I did hear that the goverment (fed) was looking at taxing ebay sales (something like a sales tax). Can't blame them considering how many auctions ebay has running on a daily basis. I only know this as a result of trying to become the Controller at www.mindshare.net/our_work/ebay (there involvement is noted on their homepage. the job didn't pan out).

[gary]

And since Ebay doesn't technically operate in any state (which state is the internet in?)

Actually the state is brilliant here. E-bay does not have a presence so can't get an auctioneers license. E-bay says OK and opens an office and the state gives them a license. State also says now that you have a presence in our state we want SALES TAX on all sales. BRILLIANT!

[ironhat]

Boy, somebody lets the door ajar and in wanders Jeffrey Schronce! LOL!! Good to hear from you, Jeff. Now, get your information right on your header. You moved, right? Just needling you a bit. Again, good to hear from you.