Edgeband veneer tape is structural?

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  • downtheroad
    Forum Newbie
    • Mar 2007
    • 79
    • So. California
    • Ryobi BT3000

    #1

    Edgeband veneer tape is structural?

    Our 2 man finishing shop was called last week by an interior designer we've done a few projects for in the past. He needed our help on a residential project ....a 15' X 10' contemporary built-in fireplace surround containing an audio/visual cabinet and a banquette bench that needed to be finished ASAP as the painting and flooring contractors were scheduled to start sometime the following week. We were right in the middle of a kitchen finishing job and are booked for the next 2 months. We decided to squeeze in 3 days to help him out.

    The built-in was made of 3/4" oak-veneered mdf panels that are flush to the fireplace and create a flat wall surface across the whole wall. There is a 1/8" reveal between all the panels. The A/V equipment is hidden behind two 75" high by 29" wide pocket doors. When we first arrived at the house on Thursday, I noticed the doors were not flush at the bottom which ruined the paneled wall effect. I said the cabinet shop will need to install a set of magnetic latches at the bottom of these doors also.

    We proceeded to mask and remove the drawers and doors. The doors were heavy and flexed a bit when we leaned them against the wall. There was an 1/8" kerf across the center of the doors to match the other reveals.

    We put one door on a work table to prep it. The oak veneer edge tape was covering the ends of the kerf and had a slight crack in it from the door flexing. My partner thought "They forgot to cut the tape at the kerf" and proceeded to trim the tape from the kerfs. We then realized the kerfs were really deep. There was only 1/4" thickness of material holding both halves together and the edgebanding was the only thing keeping the parts from breaking in two. On the back, the cabinet shop figured it needed reinforcing and rabbeted the area 2 1/2" by 1/4" deep on both halves and glued in a 5" wide 1/4" ash veneer plywood reinforcement strip.

    There was no way we were going to be able to flip these doors over or even move them in this state. Friday, we brought some 4" X 48" 3/4" appleply and some clamps and made splints so we could turn the doors over. Worked out great. We should have the job completed on Monday, an ebonized stained finish.

    Here's a couple pictures taken with my phone. Sorry about the quality. You can see the kerf and the edgebanding cut through at the kerf. Amazing, anyone could think this design would work.
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    Tony
  • cabinetman
    Gone but not Forgotten RIP
    • Jun 2006
    • 15216
    • So. Florida
    • Delta

    #2
    That edge banding might have been a last minute afterthought by someone doing the job on site. I can't imaging that being done in a cabinet shop and being delivered and installed that way, even if it were braced.

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    • crokett
      The Full Monte
      • Jan 2003
      • 10627
      • Mebane, NC, USA.
      • Ryobi BT3000

      #3
      Why were the kerfs cut so deep in the first place?
      David

      The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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      • downtheroad
        Forum Newbie
        • Mar 2007
        • 79
        • So. California
        • Ryobi BT3000

        #4
        Sure does look like an afterthought, not much sense in the overall design.

        Obviously, a shallow kerf in a wide drawer/long door to simulate 2 drawers/doors is done frequently and we can't figure out his reason to have such deep gashes.

        Don't know who the builder was but a lot of his design/construction leaves a lot to be desired. I would have put a 1/8" rabbet on the edge of one panel and butt it next to the adjacent panel to give an even reveal. Instead, some reveals are not even and some are too narrow and one intersection of 4 panels doesn't even line up. To my eye, it looks bad. Not good in a 5 million dollar home.
        Tony

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        • cgallery
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2004
          • 4503
          • Milwaukee, WI
          • BT3K

          #5
          "One of these things, is not like the others. One of these things, is not the same. Can you tell me which one of these things, is not like the others. Can you tell me which one, is not the same" ... The deep kerf cut!

          Sorry about that, but it just seemed like someone knew what they were doing when they made that built-in, but then forgot it all when they cut that kerf so deep.

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