What Makes A Craftsman A Master?

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  • cabinetman
    Gone but not Forgotten RIP
    • Jun 2006
    • 15216
    • So. Florida
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    #1

    What Makes A Craftsman A Master?

    There are many craftsmen that will never be considered a master. Does that title come with the exposure level of a good craftsman's work? This question and others are to try and pinpoint the "master" level of woodworking.

    As in many sports, few will exceed to some extreme perfection that makes one wonder whether some people are born with exceptional excellence in one thing or another. Do you think that this excellence is just a natural affinity, or is it from the dedication of practice and refining ones own abilities. So, part of the question may be that with some people, could dedicating the indulgence in the sport with practice, practice, practice, and training, possibly evolve to a performer with extreme expertise?

    As for woodworking, I've seen examples of members on the forum that exhibit "master" level craftsmanship. What would the distinction be in differentiating an absolute marvel of woodwork, and being considered a master.

    There has been a few posts about woodworkers that became an influence in our life. As for the ones on TV, unfortunately there are only less than a half dozen that I know about. In actuality, they all present a work ethic and demonstrate abilities that an experienced woodworker would have. Is the fact that what they do may be just ahead of the less experienced woodworker, giving them the popularity and idol personna?

    Now we have to ask if the good craftsman had the training and experience in the many levels of woodworking, could he/she demonstrate that level of expertise? In other words, do you think the techniques and abilities of the "masters" including craftsman such as James Krenov, the Stickley's, Chippendale, and Heppelwhite, for just a few, can be learned and performed with enough dedication. And did the terminology of "master" get imposed because of popularity and marketing of good innovative woodwork?
  • Thom2
    Resident BT3Central Research Ass.
    • Jan 2003
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    • Stevens, PA, USA.
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    #2
    There actually is a chain of events that lead to being able to use the term "Master Craftsman" .... take a read

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_craftsman
    If it ain't broke.. don't fix it!!!... but you can always 'hop it up'
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    • leehljp
      The Full Monte
      • Dec 2002
      • 8795
      • Tunica, MS
      • BT3000/3100

      #3
      With an exception mentioned later, I believe most of it is a combination of natural skill, practice/experience and desire/passion.

      1.Desire can overcome a lot and "some" skill advances can be aquired if the passion is deep enough.

      2. Practice and experience can do a lot to "bring out" hidden skills or overcome particular deficiencies that might prevent a person from becoming a master. I have a good eye for minute details but not great with eye hand coordination. Jigs, regular use if quality rules and measuring devices make up for this with me. I never would be good with hand tools. I am not great now, just "mildly good".

      Some people have a natural skill; in some cases it is never developed. In others it becomes evident early on. Sam Maloof is one like this. He once hand held a drill to drill a hole in a chair at an angle. An apprentice asked if he was not going to measure the angle. He did after the fact and it was dead on. The apprentice then asked if he (Sam) had crosshairs in his eyes. I have met a few people like this.

      I have a Japanese friend who is an artist but loves woodworking. The tolerances that he exhibits in his woodworking skill in which he uses his hand and eyes without measureing devices are far beyond me. I would need a CAD and CNC to approach his eye/hand coordinated work.

      My Japanese friend is not considered a Master Craftsman in Japan because he is too young (mid 40's). He is respected among some great craftsmen in CA (of the USA) and even master craftsmen here because of some of the tools that he makes. It is just that here, age is as much a requirement as exceptional skill.
      Last edited by leehljp; 03-15-2007, 07:13 AM.
      Hank Lee

      Experience is what you get when you don't get what you wanted!

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      • scorrpio
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 1566
        • Wayne, NJ, USA.

        #4
        To me, the distinction is pretty simple.

        A good craftsman can take a batch of lumber, and look for and follow the rules of a known style that best matches it.

        A master can take a batch of lumber and make something that feels right for it - sometimes defining a whole new style in the process.

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        • MilDoc

          #5
          Ask cabinetman ...

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          • cabinetman
            Gone but not Forgotten RIP
            • Jun 2006
            • 15216
            • So. Florida
            • Delta

            #6
            Originally posted by leehljp
            With an exception mentioned later, I believe most of it is a combination of natural skill, practice/experience and desire/passion.

            1.Desire can overcome a lot and "some" skill advances can be aquired if the passion is deep enough.

            2. Practice and experience can do a lot to "bring out" hidden skills or overcome particular deficiencies that might prevent a person from becoming a master.
            Agreed that the term "master" in some parts of the world is an earned certification. But in general, the quality of the craftsmanship may attribute to an individual a "masters" status, whether the craftsperson gets the notoriety or not is somewhat dependent on their exposure.

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            • crokett
              The Full Monte
              • Jan 2003
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              #7
              I always thought it was a master hides his mistakes better than everyone else.
              David

              The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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              • cabinetman
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                • Jun 2006
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                • So. Florida
                • Delta

                #8
                Originally posted by crokett
                I always thought it was a master hides his mistakes better than everyone else.
                That's gotta be it. Maybe that's why doctors aren't called masters (no offense docs).

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                • gsmittle
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                  • Aug 2004
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                  #9
                  I thought it was when you have your own TV show and the announcer says, "... with master craftsman _____________."

                  g.
                  Smit

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                  • cabinetman
                    Gone but not Forgotten RIP
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 15216
                    • So. Florida
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by gsmittle
                    I thought it was when you have your own TV show and the announcer says, "... with master craftsman _____________."

                    g.


                    I talked in the original post about only a handful of craftsmen on TV, and don’t get me wrong on this, as I’m not bashing David Marks. Since there are so few WW’s on TV, what they are demonstrating may be a step beyond the average woodworker, that hasn’t experienced that procedure. I haven’t seen him do anything that an experienced woodworker couldn’t do. I’m referring to a woodworker that has been exposed to a similar range of projercts. The wonderment of his abilities may be attributed to some who don’t feel like they could ever do that kind of work.

                    To answer that, one has to try. Hey, David had his first tries at certain procedures and we didn’t get to see the success or failures in those projects. A persons successes and failures only happen with trying. That is the learning process.

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                    • LarryG
                      The Full Monte
                      • May 2004
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                      #11
                      At least in the United States, I don't think the term "master" has any meaning at all. It's an "eye of the beholder" kind of title. Anyone can apply it to anyone, or a person can even adopt it himself.

                      Originally posted by cabinetman
                      I haven’t seen [David Marks] do anything that an experienced woodworker couldn’t do.
                      The projects on WoodWorks were no doubt chosen for their suitability for the television audience, and the presumed skill level thereof. Take a gander at some of the stuff in the Gallery section of his web site. They're in a completely different league.
                      Larry

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