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  • p8ntblr
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 921
    • So Cal
    • Craftsman 22114

    #1

    Lock bumping

    How secure is your front door? Or I guess someone could argue this is just a big commercial for Schlage and company.

    http://www.peiferlock.com/alert-bump-keys.htm
    -Paul
  • JTimmons
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2005
    • 690
    • Denver, CO.
    • Grizzly 1023SLX, Ryobi BT3100

    #2
    Holy cr@p! Thanks for the info, makes me glad I installed an alarm system on the house.
    "Happiness is your dentist telling you it won't hurt and then having him catch his hand in the drill."
    -- Johnny Carson

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    • JTimmons
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2005
      • 690
      • Denver, CO.
      • Grizzly 1023SLX, Ryobi BT3100

      #3
      This is unbelievable, I Googled "bump keys", the results are amazing.

      There's even a forum dedicated to it: http://www.bumpkeyforum.com/.

      I'm not sure I would notice a tapping sound at the door, much less my wife.
      "Happiness is your dentist telling you it won't hurt and then having him catch his hand in the drill."
      -- Johnny Carson

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      • Pappy
        The Full Monte
        • Dec 2002
        • 10490
        • San Marcos, TX, USA.
        • BT3000 (x2)

        #4
        Is there a listing free of 'bump proof' locks?
        Don, aka Pappy,

        Wise men talk because they have something to say,
        Fools because they have to say something.
        Plato

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        • JTimmons
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2005
          • 690
          • Denver, CO.
          • Grizzly 1023SLX, Ryobi BT3100

          #5
          The site that the clip is on states the Medeco M3 and Keymark deadbolts are bump proof.

          OPTION 1: Medeco M3 Maxum deadbolts Features and Benefits:
          • Medeco M3 locks cannot be picked or bumped providing you additional security from breakins
          • Hardened pins prevent & protect from drilling. Unlike other home and light commerical grade locks. Medeco M3 has earned a UL437 Listing & ANSI/BHMA A156.30 Level A Certification, and are classified as high security because of their superior resistance to physical attack and protection against unauthorized key duplication.
          • Know you are secure. Patented keys permit only YOU or your designates to authorize additional keys. ( Future key needs are password authorized and sent via certified mail )
          OPTION 2: Medeco Keymark deadbolts Features and Benefits:
          • Lower Cost Option for bump key protection
          • Medeco Keymark cylinders utilize pick resistant tumblers
          • Patented keys and unique keyways protect against the availability of blanks for making into a bump key.

          "Happiness is your dentist telling you it won't hurt and then having him catch his hand in the drill."
          -- Johnny Carson

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          • cabinetman
            Gone but not Forgotten RIP
            • Jun 2006
            • 15216
            • So. Florida
            • Delta

            #6
            Well wouldn't you know it, pretty soon there will be a site on how to make the key. With all the CSI type shows, the criminal mind can find out how to commit a more perfect crime. Maybe this type of awareness balances out between the number of people it helps on both sides of the fence.

            My solution: I've got two large German Shepherd Dogs that are very light sleepers.

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            • JTimmons
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2005
              • 690
              • Denver, CO.
              • Grizzly 1023SLX, Ryobi BT3100

              #7
              Originally posted by cabinetman
              My solution: I've got two large German Shepherd Dogs that are very light sleepers.
              Ever see that show, It Takes a Thief? The people on it seemed to have the same solution when all else failed.
              Seems the dogs were very protective when the owners were home against anyone coming up to the houses, but when the owners were gone they either played with thief or ignored him, I don't think I have ever seen an episode where dogs have stopped them from breaking into a house.
              "Happiness is your dentist telling you it won't hurt and then having him catch his hand in the drill."
              -- Johnny Carson

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              • cabinetman
                Gone but not Forgotten RIP
                • Jun 2006
                • 15216
                • So. Florida
                • Delta

                #8
                Originally posted by JTimmons
                Ever see that show, It Takes a Thief? The people on it seemed to have the same solution when all else failed.
                Seems the dogs were very protective when the owners were home against anyone coming up to the houses, but when the owners were gone they either played with thief or ignored him, I don't think I have ever seen an episode where dogs have stopped them from breaking into a house.
                Just for S & G's consider that when they set up the show with the homeowner, the dogs meet everybody. Besides, that's TV. They haven't met my two. IF they managed to get in, they'd NEVER get out.

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                • crokett
                  The Full Monte
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 10627
                  • Mebane, NC, USA.
                  • Ryobi BT3000

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JTimmons
                  I don't think I have ever seen an episode where dogs have stopped them from breaking into a house.
                  Mike has a good point - the dog(s) meet the cast and crew beforehand. I have a Lab and Lab/Chow mix. I know what my dogs would do if we were not home. A while back the dogs would not let the cleaning people in. They came back out to meet the dogs while we were home and the dogs ignored them after that.
                  David

                  The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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                  • JTimmons
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 690
                    • Denver, CO.
                    • Grizzly 1023SLX, Ryobi BT3100

                    #10
                    Originally posted by cabinetman
                    Just for S & G's consider that when they set up the show with the homeowner, the dogs meet everybody. Besides, that's TV. They haven't met my two. IF they managed to get in, they'd NEVER get out.
                    Had this boss one time that used to say, "do whatever your career can afford." I guess the same can be applied here.
                    "Happiness is your dentist telling you it won't hurt and then having him catch his hand in the drill."
                    -- Johnny Carson

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                    • Ed62
                      The Full Monte
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 6021
                      • NW Indiana
                      • BT3K

                      #11
                      I just read an interesting article yesterday about new things that are available for homes. One of them was a lock that is activated by your fingerprint. It's possible to override that feature, but you have to have permission to do that (kind of like an administrator on the computer).

                      I also have a German Shepherd that I trained for personal protection. Great dog who is on the job constantly, but not a match for a bullet.

                      Ed
                      Do you know about kickback? Ray has a good writeup here... https://www.sawdustzone.org/articles...mare-explained

                      For a kickback demonstration video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/910584...demonstration/

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                      • JSCOOK
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 774
                        • Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
                        • Ryobi BT3100-1

                        #12
                        WOW

                        The Internet never stops amazing me at the uses scum life will find to exploit ... imagine the feats and benefits that could be had if that same "creativity" was funneled for good use ...

                        I've only used Schlage doorlocks for years now ... looks like I'll be talking to my locksmith about upgrading the cylinders if required ... but not too worried about it as our home security system lets the entire neighbourhood know when the alarm goes off.

                        Growing up we use to raise "Lhasa Apso" dogs, and have thought recently about getting one since now having 3 small kids ... they make terrrific sentinels and have an amazing skill of knowing who is friend and foe ... and have a bizzare fearless kamikaze nature.
                        Last edited by JSCOOK; 02-18-2007, 10:17 AM.
                        "Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you learn". by C.S. Lewis

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                        • Mrs. Wallnut
                          Bandsaw Box Momma
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 1566
                          • Ellensburg, Washington, USA.

                          #13
                          You know I was reading this topic and also realized that our dogs make a lot of noise and will alert us if anyone is near while I am home. We have two labs, one black female who is small and not very intimidating. The other is a fairly large chocolate lab who a lot of people will not go around because when he barks all the hair on his neck stands straight up. I don't know what they would do when no one was home and someone tried to break in. I do know the big lab wouldn't be able to do much because he is on a dog run from the back of the house to the shop.

                          But what I do know is that when the dogs make noise and bark in the middle of the night I know there is something out there, and take the extra precautions when I go and let them out or look out the windows, . Dogs are a good warning system IMO but I know that our dogs calm right down when someone comes into the house, and from then on if that person shows up then they are friends.
                          Mrs. Wallnut a.k.a (the head nut).

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                          • eezlock
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 997
                            • Charlotte,N.C.
                            • BT3100

                            #14
                            bump keying....

                            Being a locksmith we know about these type of things for sure. They are several ways of defeating them....the best way is to call you knowledgeable
                            registered,licensed locksmith and consult him/her about the best course to persue about you home and business locks.

                            The best way is a high security registered keyway system that the keys
                            are not readily available to every key cutter in town! A good secure virtually
                            pick-proof lock is available thru a locksmith,but they do cost more,but the
                            extra piece of mind thru the security they provide is worth ten times the cost
                            of the lock themselves! I have my own registered keyway system from a
                            good quality supplier...these locks,keys, parts and info. iare registered to me
                            and is not available to anyone else within a 50 mile radius. So check and see
                            about this type of system in your area...it may be what you need to protect
                            your home and business. Your local locksmith can be you best friend when
                            you need him/her! eezlock

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                            • eezlock
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 997
                              • Charlotte,N.C.
                              • BT3100

                              #15
                              bump keying....

                              Being a locksmith we know about these type of things for sure. They are several ways of defeating them....the best way is to call you knowledgeable
                              registered,licensed locksmith and consult him/her about the best course to persue about you home and business locks.

                              The best way is a high security registered keyway system that the keys
                              are not readily available to every key cutter in town! A good secure virtually
                              pick-proof lock is available thru a locksmith,but they do cost more,but the
                              extra piece of mind thru the security they provide is worth ten times the cost
                              of the lock themselves! I have my own registered keyway system from a
                              good quality supplier...these locks,keys, parts and info. are registered to me
                              and is not available to anyone else within a 50 mile radius. So check and see
                              about this type of system in your area...it may be what you need to protect
                              your home and business. Your local locksmith can be you best friend when
                              you need him/her! eezlock

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