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  • uncle al
    Forum Newbie
    • Dec 2002
    • 35
    • CA, USA.

    #1

    blind corner cabinet storage

    Not sure if this is posted in the right place, but here goes.

    Does anyone have any brilliant idea/pics, etc on the best way to use the "dead space" in blind corner kitchen cabinets? I am buying some new kitchen cabinets, and one is a blind corner. There are a lot of expensive aftermarket inserts that have fancy "linked" pullouts, but this group is pretty inventive, as well as thrifty, and thought I would pick your brains.

    Any ideas/suggestions out there? Anyone made a successful adaption/conversion they want to share?

    Thanks
    Uncle Al

    \"There is never enough time to do it right, but there always seems to be enough time to do it over\"
  • dlminehart
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2003
    • 1829
    • San Jose, CA, USA.

    #2
    I've seen two options. In one, the adjacent cabinet doors are connected as one with a hinge between them, so you open the entire corner. This is usually combined with a lazy susan, as the back corner is pretty far back. The lazy susan has a 1/4 slice removed to accommodate the corner. In the second, there's only one door to the long blind cabinet, with some variation of a sliding floor on each shelf. To use, you must remove items from the immediately accessible part of the cabinet, then slide the floor over with the stuff that's back in the blind corner.

    I think the lazy susan sounds the most likely to be well used.
    - David

    “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.” -- Oscar Wilde

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    • Esteban
      Forum Newbie
      • Jun 2003
      • 79
      • Puerto Rico.

      #3
      Take a look at this neat corner cabinet idea.
      http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworki....aspx?id=26527

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      • 25
        Established Member
        • Jan 2004
        • 294
        • League City, Tx, USA.
        • BT3100

        #4
        My parents old house had one of those corner lazy susans, if you have kids you can expect things to get thrown off of it as they spin it around to try to get to something in the back. Other than that it worked really well.

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        • cabinetman
          Gone but not Forgotten RIP
          • Jun 2006
          • 15216
          • So. Florida
          • Delta

          #5
          In my experience I've found the circular lazy susans leave too much difficult to use space lost in the corners created by the circles. What I do is to make two doors with one hinged to one cabinet and the other hinged to that door. When both are open, the whole corner is exposed and easily accessible.



          "I'M NEVER WRONG - BUT I'M NOT ALWAYS RIGHT"

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          • jhgrady
            Established Member
            • Jul 2003
            • 297
            • Alexandria, Va, USA.

            #6
            Hi

            Has anyone used that space from the other side of the wall - from within the next room.

            John

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            • Lee4847
              Established Member
              • Feb 2006
              • 200
              • Canton, Oh
              • BT3100

              #7
              other side

              I have two corners. One I made a lazy susan like in the video. The other wasfacing the dining room and I turned the cabinet around facing the dining room and made a drawer unit for linins and things.
              Cut twice.... measure??

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              • RayintheUK
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2003
                • 1792
                • Crowborough, East Sussex, United Kingdom.
                • Ryobi BT3000

                #8
                I just run the cabinets into the corner and put in a fixed shelf at half height. The shelf has a recess removed from it which is the width of the door aperture and between 4" to 6" deep. This makes accessing the further parts considerably easier.

                Ray.
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                • mschrank
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 1130
                  • Hood River, OR, USA.
                  • BT3000

                  #9
                  I'm in the process of figuring out new cabinets as well. This solution caught my eye:

                  Last edited by mschrank; 12-18-2008, 12:23 PM.
                  Mike

                  Drywall screws are not wood screws

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                  • GeekMom
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 752
                    • Bonney Lake, WA.
                    • Shopsmith Mark V

                    #10
                    Mike (mschrank), that is EXACTLY what I've been wanting to do in my kitchen. Where did you find it? I suppose it would be pretty difficult to retrofit an existing cabinet, though . . .
                    Last edited by GeekMom; 10-18-2006, 10:05 AM.
                    Karen
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                    • mschrank
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 1130
                      • Hood River, OR, USA.
                      • BT3000

                      #11
                      Originally posted by GeekMom
                      Mike (mschrank), that is EXACTLY what I've been wanting to do in my kitchen. Where did you find it? I suppose it would be pretty difficult to retrofit an existing cabinet, though . . .
                      I saw that on the KraftMaid website...though I know I've seen it elsewhere as well. Depending on the door width opening and how much you are willing to contort yourself, I would think it might be possible to retrofit.
                      Mike

                      Drywall screws are not wood screws

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                      • GeekMom
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 752
                        • Bonney Lake, WA.
                        • Shopsmith Mark V

                        #12
                        Thank you, Mike.
                        Karen
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                        • Tom Slick
                          Veteran Member
                          • May 2005
                          • 2913
                          • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
                          • sears BT3 clone

                          #13
                          I just finished building 2 blind corner cabinets and was going to ask the same question here, good timing!
                          Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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                          • uncle al
                            Forum Newbie
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 35
                            • CA, USA.

                            #14
                            Thanks

                            Thanks to all for your insights. For the others who are interested, there are some very good retrofit metal units that will work even in relatively small blind corners, and they are priced from reasonable to outrageous. One salesman who had the german model on display said it would be cheaper to hire someone to live in the blind cabinet and pass stuff out to you when you needed it!! Since the unit was priced at just over $1000.00, he's probably right!!

                            Here is a link to one of the retrofit units

                            http://www.rev-a-shelf.com/series.asp?series=59. Actually, one of the more reasonable ideas that might work easily and last a few years, is retrofit-able, but loses much of the storage space in the cabinet, I think

                            There are many other ideas if you search google for blind corner cabinets
                            such as
                            http://www.shelvesthatslide.com/blind_corner.htm
                            The headline on this site is " if you've got the money, weve got the system"

                            There are also others like this that cost around $250-$275 from Lee Valley, which I ALMOST bought -- but decided on a chaper and simpler solution ( see below)

                            The one Mike showed in his link earlier is from Kraftmaid, and Diamond ( made by the same owner, as are most cabinet lines as it turns out).
                            While these are very clever, they require two levels of pullouts, one on a "retractable door" type unit (like you might use on an entertainment unit to slide the doors along the side to get them out of the way when you open it), mounted only on one side at the bottom, and I just don't see it lasting a long time. Also, the swing out unit seems to swing on a piano hinge, which is also a weak point. The demo units at HD were already showing the wear and tear on the weak spots.

                            You guys have pretty much confirmed that the simple approach is probably best. I am going to build two roller pullout drawers that will slide into the "dead space", and use the easily accessible space for something easy to pull out of the way( like the Kitchen-aid mixer, or the food processor) when I need to access these slide out drawers.
                            If anyone has any other ideas, I will continue to monitor for the great ideas.

                            Thanks again to all for the comments and ideas.

                            Alan
                            Last edited by uncle al; 10-18-2006, 09:02 PM.
                            Uncle Al

                            \"There is never enough time to do it right, but there always seems to be enough time to do it over\"

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