Chimney Terra to Stainless Conversion

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  • Jeffrey Schronce
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 3822
    • York, PA, USA.
    • 22124

    #1

    Chimney Terra to Stainless Conversion

    Are any of you folks chimney professionals or have a keen understanding of the conversion of a damaged chimney to stainless steel liner? Just wanted to see if there are any near experts prior to getting into the whole deal.
    Thanks
    Jeff
  • crokett
    The Full Monte
    • Jan 2003
    • 10627
    • Mebane, NC, USA.
    • Ryobi BT3000

    #2
    In my teens we put a liner down a 30' chimney for a woodstove in our house. We dropped it down from the top and added sections as we went. A cap went on the top that attached to the new liner to keep things in place and the bottom was tied into the stove.
    David

    The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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    • bmyers
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2003
      • 1371
      • Fishkill, NY
      • bt 3100

      #3
      Not cheap but, it's cheaper than building a new house and replacing everything in it because your old one burnt down to the ground.

      I put a chimeny in last year in my cabin for my woodstove (well, 2 years ago now i guess). I don't remember the manufacturer but (was the only one Nova Scotia) it was double wall aluminized steel insulated chimeny pipe, not stove pipe. You can just about touch this stuff while it's in use so it doesn't matter much what is around it, if anything.

      Is this for a wood or gas burning chimeny? Have a look at http://www.ventingpipe.com for an idea of parts (don't know about prices)

      Bill
      "Why are there Braille codes on drive-up ATM machines?"

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      • Wood_workur
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2005
        • 1914
        • Ohio
        • Ryobi bt3100-1

        #4
        Bill, also cheaper than being sued for you chimney falling on your neighbor's house.
        Alex

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        • jAngiel
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2003
          • 561
          • Ryobi BT3100

          #5
          I just watched an episode of TOH where Tom Silva did the same thing. I think he said is was around $350 for the one piece of steel vent pipe. It was flexible but not real flexible.

          Looked pretty easy to do, ran it through the chimney on the roof down to the basement. Hooked it up downstairs and capped it off upstairs and sealed off the remaining chimney space with sheet metal. I guess it all depends on what it is venting, they actually had a 6" or 8" pipe on a furnace or something to connect it to. I don't know how you would do that for a fireplace or something "open" like that.

          Good Luck, sounds like someone is getting ready for winter.
          James

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          • Jeffrey Schronce
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 3822
            • York, PA, USA.
            • 22124

            #6
            Ok, I'll give a little more detail in hopes of keeping things in the right direction.
            This is not for me personally, rather it is business issue. I have a group of small mutual insurance companies that want me to develop some best practices for claims handling of chimney related issues. I have thus far been very successful compiling info on masonry aspects, rebuilds, etc based upon 2006 International Residential Code and other sources.
            My problem is that I am running into vast price differences and recommendations within the same geographic location. I will see work in Buffalo NY vary greatly in both cost and scope of repairs.
            Seems all stainless steel liners installed by professionals are running $2000 - $3000, which to me is a somewhat reasonable variance in cost. However, in addition to these costs I will see $100 stainless steel chimney caps - $790 stainless steel chimney caps.
            Most applications are related to chimney fires in terra cotta chimney flues from open box fireplace (occasionally with an insert).
            Here is one example I find extremely confusing :
            Lightning strikes chimney. Cap is clearly damaged and it is asserted that the lightning cracked the entire length of the chimney flue. The insurance company paid this entire bill. I can not see why as I believe a lot of the items are unrelated to the strike and the insured was sold everything under the sun.
            Stainles Steel Liner w/wrap insulation $1699.99 (certainly within range)
            Install Regency Insert $2814.14
            22 x 46 x 10 Stainless Cap $660
            Crown Coat top of chimney $200
            Water Proof w/ Chimney Saver $550

            Ok, I am cool with the liner. I am ok with crown coat as crown may have been damaged. I am cool with the chimney cap at $250 not $660.

            Why would the insert be replaced? I can't see how the insert would have anything to do with the cracked liner. The waterproofing looks like a typical scam. I read about it online googling Chimney Saver and found it is a topically applied liquid that penetrates the chimney and prevents discoloration, movement, etc (I guess a killer non-glossy shellac!LOL).

            ANyone have anything to add on this? Am I on track

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