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  • crokett
    The Full Monte
    • Jan 2003
    • 10627
    • Mebane, NC, USA.
    • Ryobi BT3000

    #1

    True or False?

    True or False? Having the tailgate down on a truck increases fuel efficiency.

    BT3Kers as a whole are a smart group so I expect most of you to get this. Please just answer the poll (no comments) and I will post the answer in a few days.
    81
    True
    27.16%
    22
    False
    72.84%
    59

    The poll is expired.

    David

    The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.
  • gjbivin
    Established Member
    • Jan 2005
    • 141
    • Gilbert, AZ, USA.
    • BT3100

    #2
    They tested this on Mythbusters. I won't give away their results just yet.
    Gary J. Bivin
    Gilbert, AZ

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    • mudder
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2003
      • 1532
      • I live in a house
      • Delta 36-650

      #3
      Watch Mythbusters..... They proved that tailgate up causes a turbulance bubble in the bed that reduces drag.

      http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2005/11/e...s_cures_f.html

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      • jAngiel
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2003
        • 561
        • Ryobi BT3100

        #4
        I have always heard that the best way to reduce drag was to get a cover for the bed, something I just can't see me doing anytime soon. It's too easy to go buy something and toss it in the bed without having to roll up a cover or pop it up. There are a lot of variations of the covers around but when I want a load of dirt I don't want to have to screw around with a cover. For me the truck is a TRUCK, meant for hauling.
        James

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        • Wood_workur
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2005
          • 1914
          • Ohio
          • Ryobi bt3100-1

          #5
          Originally posted by jAngiel
          I have always heard that the best way to reduce drag was to get a cover for the bed, something I just can't see me doing anytime soon. It's too easy to go buy something and toss it in the bed without having to roll up a cover or pop it up. There are a lot of variations of the covers around but when I want a load of dirt I don't want to have to screw around with a cover. For me the truck is a TRUCK, meant for hauling.
          no, best way to reduce drag is to buy a sedan...
          Alex

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          • crokett
            The Full Monte
            • Jan 2003
            • 10627
            • Mebane, NC, USA.
            • Ryobi BT3000

            #6
            Originally posted by crokett
            Please just answer the poll (no comments) and I will post the answer in a few days.

            Oh well. Since the answer was already posted I will 'splain.

            Having the tailgate up keeps air in the bed. This produces an effect similar to a tonneau cover - the air flowing over the cab keeps moving over the top of this still air. If the tailgate is down you lose this effect, increase drag and actually lose efficiency, 5-7% are most estimates.

            If you remember as a kid if you remember riding in the back of a pickup, the air is relatively calm in the bed - much more so than you'd expect.
            David

            The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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            • Otter
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2003
              • 865
              • Cumming, GA, USA.
              • Delta Left Tilt UniSaw

              #7
              The best way to reduce drag..........is not to put on the dress
              All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, to make it possible

              T.E. Lawrence

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              • Ken Weaver
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2004
                • 2417
                • Clemson, SC, USA
                • Rigid TS3650

                #8
                My truck doesn't go fast enought to worry about aerodynamics :-)
                Ken Weaver
                Clemson, SC

                "A mistake is absolute proof that someone tried to do something!

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                • BobSch
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 4385
                  • Minneapolis, MN, USA.
                  • BT3100

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Wood_workur
                  no, best way to reduce drag is to buy a sedan...
                  Or a Porsche.
                  Bob

                  Bad decisions make good stories.

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                  • Tundra_Man
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 1589
                    • Sioux Falls, SD, USA.
                    • Ryobi BT3100

                    #10
                    When I got my last truck, it came with a topper. After about six months, I realized I didn't like having a topper (as James mentioned above, a truck is a truck) so I removed it. Amazingly, my gas mileage improved by about 3 mpg!
                    Terry

                    Life's too short to play an ordinary guitar: Tundra Man Custom Guitars

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                    • ewingda
                      Forum Newbie
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 31
                      • Winston-Salem, NC
                      • BT3100 & SawStop 3HP

                      #11
                      A truck is really a brick with wheels when it comes to aerodynamics! If you want less drag - dont drive it!

                      FYI - I have a Honda Accord V6 and Honda Ridgeline. Similar engines - huge fuel difference!

                      Dave
                      **********
                      Dave Ewing
                      woodshop@davidewingjr.us

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                      • bigsteel15
                        Veteran Member
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 1079
                        • Edmonton, AB
                        • Ryobi BT3100

                        #12
                        the best way to improve fuel economy in your truck is to only drive it when you need to haul something.
                        The rest of the time, drive a VW.
                        My 87 GTI has over 500,000 miles on it and still going at 40 MPG
                        Brian

                        Welcome to the school of life
                        Where corporal punishment is alive and well.

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                        • cwsmith
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 2810
                          • NY Southern Tier, USA.
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                          #13
                          Hmmm, interesting..... but does the air bubble leak out when the truck bed has rust holes in it??

                          CWS
                          Think it Through Before You Do!

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                          • Texas splinter
                            Established Member
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 211
                            • Abilene, TX, USA.
                            • BT3100

                            #14
                            Consumers Union ran extensive tests on this subject in the mid 90's when gas prices spiked for one reason or another.
                            The tested trucks with and without the tailgate open, bed cover on and off, and with and without a cap on the bed.
                            End result was that the stock condition, tailgate closed, got the best mileage.
                            But...The difference between highest and lowest milage was ess than 2 MPG.
                            They talked to the design engineers at Ford, GM and Dodge and found out that, on trucks built prior to about 1990, the tailgate down may improve MPG, but starting with the 90 modles, the trucks were tested at the NASA wind tunnel in VA. It became available to them and they started using it.
                            As has been stated here, the truck is designed to maintain a "bubble" of air in the bed that passes the wind over the bed and tailgate. Anythin tat disturbs this bubble will lessen MPG.
                            I drive a 2001 F250 Superduty diesel 4WD and since fuel wint up, have slowed 5MPH, to 65 or lower. My MPG has gone up 2 to 4 MPG, epending on highway or town driving.
                            "Aspire to inspire before you expire."

                            Chuck Hershiser
                            Abilene, Texas

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                            • Russianwolf
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 3152
                              • Martinsburg, WV, USA.
                              • One of them there Toy saws

                              #15
                              Originally posted by cwsmith
                              Hmmm, interesting..... but does the air bubble leak out when the truck bed has rust holes in it??

                              CWS
                              I bet that rust holes would have an effect on the test.

                              I don't worry about milage in my 36 year old Jeep pick-up. It sucks and I know it, but since I only paid $600 for her, it'll take 10 years of driving her full time (which I doubt I will) to see a downside. I only drive her to and from the train station (about 4 miles) and on errands on the weekend. I'm betting I'll spend $500 a year on gas.
                              Mike
                              Lakota's Dad

                              If at first you don't succeed, deny you were trying in the first place.

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