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  • Ken Massingale
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2002
    • 3862
    • Liberty, SC, USA.
    • Ridgid TS3650

    #1

    The Saddest Thing I've Heard In Awhile (Longish)

    Recently I heard heavy equipment running at the neighbors about a eighth mile away, along with chainsaws. I figured he was clearing some trees and perhaps having a small pond built, since he had mentioned in the past that he would like one. He and his wife are in their seventies and their house was her fathers that he built as a young man, and there was another house on the home place before the present house replaced the original one.
    He came by a couple of weeks ago and I asked what he had done that required heavy equipment, hoping there was a new fishing pond close by.
    He explained that he grew concerned about the large Oak trees around his house and had had them cut. I immediately had visions of hundreds of board feet of almost free Oak lumber.
    I asked about the trees and he asked why I was asking, then had a OMG/concerned look on his face. I started having a boulder growing in my gut as he said he is getting forgetful, and forgot that I do woodworking. UH-OH
    Says he, well, you know the heavy equipment you heard?
    Says I, yes, Mr. Owens.
    Says he, well Ken it was a big backhoe digging a huge hole to bury the trees in!
    YEP, they buried 4-100 ft. tall either Red or White Oaks, he didn't know which. I've seen the trees many times, and they were straight and clear for many, many feet. I'm sure the first 10 feet or so would be questionable due to perhaps having metal in them but there was still 1000's of board feet of lumber, the trees were a minimum of 4 ft. dia. at 6 ft. above the ground. Not to mention the huge crotches up high at the branches and forks.
    Ken Weaver has heard the story up to this point, but not the final blow.

    Mr. Owens came by again yesterday for a chat and brought up the trees again. After burying 2 of the 4 trees, the logger decided to count the rings in the remaining 2. They were so close he says he is sure he missed some, but on one he counted 168 rings and on the other he counted 188 rings. And 3 of the four were solid throughout, one had some hollowing near the ground.

    As he left he said, Ken I am sorry I didn't think of you, you could have had all of the wood you wanted

    I'm still crying.

    Please send me your condolences.
  • Stick
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2003
    • 872
    • Grand Rapids, MB, Canada.
    • BT3100

    #2
    Originally posted by Ken Massingale
    As he left he said, Ken I am sorry I didn't think of you, you could have had all of the wood you wanted

    I'm still crying.

    Please send me your condolences.
    Might be worth your while to offer to pay his backhoe time and the time to dig them up again! Sure wouldn't be free, but that's a lot of lumber lost there!

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    • mschrank
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2004
      • 1130
      • Hood River, OR, USA.
      • BT3000

      #3
      HE BURIED THEM??!!

      I I I....I, um, I'm sorry Ken. It's bad enough that he wasted what sounds like some excellent wood, but I know it must hurt you double.

      Ya know, that ground is still pretty soft...it would be awful easy digging.
      Mike

      Drywall screws are not wood screws

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      • just4funsies
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 843
        • Florida.
        • BT3000

        #4
        Danm straight! If those trees lasted 188 years, then a few days in the ground won't hurt 'em!
        ...eight, nine, TEN! Yep! Still got all my fingers!

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        • mdutch
          Established Member
          • Nov 2005
          • 140
          • Dallas, TX, USA.

          #5
          Heck yeah, exhume those suckers.

          Good luck trying to wrestle them around! I can't imagine the weight of those trunks all wet with spring sap...

          BTW, there's a special place in **** for your neighbor!
          Dutch·man Pronunciation (dchmn)n.
          3. Something used to conceal faulty construction.
          Another DFW BT3'er!

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          • Ken Massingale
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2002
            • 3862
            • Liberty, SC, USA.
            • Ridgid TS3650

            #6
            Digging them up won't work. When trees are buried they put in some tree, some dirt and pack it with the heavy equipment. More tree, more dirt and more packing. Add rain and it's a solid chunk.
            I know some sawyers and won't ask them to run their circular or band blades in wood with ground-in dirt. They would not do it if I did ask.

            Hey, I ask for condolences!

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            • crokett
              The Full Monte
              • Jan 2003
              • 10627
              • Mebane, NC, USA.
              • Ryobi BT3000

              #7
              I am so so sorry to hear of your loss. It pains me greatly.
              David

              The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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              • Ken Weaver
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2004
                • 2417
                • Clemson, SC, USA
                • Rigid TS3650

                #8
                I still haven't recovered - Ken and I are planning a day at the sawyers with the trees we've been collecting all spring, but this is a killer.
                Ken Weaver
                Clemson, SC

                "A mistake is absolute proof that someone tried to do something!

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                • cwsmith
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 2808
                  • NY Southern Tier, USA.
                  • BT3100-1

                  #9
                  Hey, digging them up might well be worth investigating. Just last week I saw a "Modern Marvels" on the History Channel. The subject was "Lumber Yards" and a major part of the story was about old lumber and trees that were being reclaimed from the bottom of the Great Lakes, bogs, buried in fields, and even at the bottom of harbors.

                  It might be worthwhile examing the area, I would think it would take some major excavation (deep) to bury one on top of the other. Of course the expense of digging them up might be a bit challenging. Also, a big question would be how big are the pieces... did they fall the tree trunk in one massive length or did they chunk it up (I can't stand the thought!)?

                  It's a sad story for sure, and one that unfortunately repeats itself all across the country.

                  CWS
                  Think it Through Before You Do!

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                  • mater
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 4197
                    • SC, USA.

                    #10
                    Oh man! I wish you had been a snoopy neighbor Ken so you could have checked the noise out.
                    Ken aka "mater"

                    " People may doubt what you say but they will never doubt what you do "

                    Ken's Den

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                    • gerti
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 2233
                      • Minnetonka, MN, USA.
                      • BT3100 "Frankensaw"

                      #11
                      I am speechless...

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                      • Roger on the Rock
                        Forum Newbie
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 88
                        • St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada
                        • BT-3100

                        #12
                        Talked to a friend of mine in Ontario who said last fall the city came by and cut down two old maple trees in front of his house because they were getting in the way of power lines and they are planning on a new sidewalk this spring. The city gave him the wood as it was cheaper than hauling it away. I asked him what he did with it and he told me he cut it up and is still burning it in his fireplace. I have seen these trees, and although not nearly the amount that Ken is indicating....still a sizable amount of good quality wood for a hobbyist.

                        I feel your pain!

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                        • Stytooner
                          Roll Tide RIP Lee
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 4301
                          • Robertsdale, AL, USA.
                          • BT3100

                          #13
                          Ken, I gotta say that I feel for ya. The useless waste of any of Mother Nature's resources is entirely heart breaking. This is compounded when it's virgin hardwood. My condolences on mankinds loss.
                          I had the same type feelings after all the Canes down here the past few years.
                          I have enough varied species log blanks to keep me busy until the cows come home. Of course they were at my home one morning when the fence of the pastue in front of my house broke. I remember LOML saying that there is a Big F-ing Bull in the front yard. My reply was that she had better not wear a red skirt when she chased him back home.
                          Needless to say, this wood is history and falls victim to death unseen ever after. Wood is one living thing that can withstand the sands of time when properly preserved. That may be one characteristic of it that intriques me the most.
                          There will be more chances down the road. I do hold my hat over my chest for the loss, though.
                          Rest in peace coffee tables, work benchs, hall cabinets, chess boards, stair railings, bowls, pens and a couple of bottle stoppers.
                          Lee

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                          • SteveJ
                            Forum Newbie
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 50

                            #14
                            A couple of years ago Norm did a show where he used redwood which had been under water in the Salt Lake for over fifty years. He didn't have to remove too much to reach some truly beautiful wood.

                            I also saw the show about the Great Lakes wood, which is a fascinating story. In fact, the entire show was excellent. To say the least, those old
                            loggers didn't think Green.

                            Steve

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                            • Pappy
                              The Full Monte
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 10490
                              • San Marcos, TX, USA.
                              • BT3000 (x2)

                              #15
                              I know the feeling. I keep watching for signs of activity on a wooded are on my route. Half of it was stripped bare and is now houses. Some nice size cedar and a few old growth mesquite were detroyed in the deal.
                              Don, aka Pappy,

                              Wise men talk because they have something to say,
                              Fools because they have to say something.
                              Plato

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