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  • Wood_workur
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2005
    • 1914
    • Ohio
    • Ryobi bt3100-1

    #31
    Red and Green show style. Hook a piano up to some spray paint. Color them with some Mozart. And also, screw a breifcase or some coffee mug to your roof.
    Alex

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    • TB Roye
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      • Jan 2004
      • 2969
      • Sacramento, CA, USA.
      • BT3100

      #32
      In California, if you have a cell phone and dial 911 you will get the CHP, Give them the plate number and description of the vehicle and driver and what is going on and with luck, providing they are not on a call,and close by they might be able to help you. I get a big kick on the freeway here during rush hour when I am in the #2 lane, the #1 being the carpool lane and have a M/C officer ride by my passenger side door and watch the Carpool lane for single occupant cars and bingo big ticket. They love SUV and Crew Cab pickups with dark windows, if you have one you are a moving screen for them. Traffic is just bad and now being retired I don't have do the comute thing any more.

      Tom

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      • Tim Clark
        Forum Newbie
        • Jan 2006
        • 99
        • Bangor, Maine, USA.

        #33
        "...a guy comes flying up behind me in his Ford Expedition and starts tailgating me. At this time I was just starting to pass a Semi."

        I'ld complete the pass (might even speed up a tad) and move over asap to let the Ford by. Happens everyday. If the other guy gets bent out of shape over it well, you're letting him go and he'll be outta sight in a few anyway.

        Enjoy the rest of the trip.
        Tim

        Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend. Inside a dog it's just too dark to read.

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        • BobSch
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          • Aug 2004
          • 4385
          • Minneapolis, MN, USA.
          • BT3100

          #34
          Originally posted by Russianwolf
          ...My dream is an air gun with a small rock or chunck of ice. Shot straight through their grill and into the radiator. $100+ might teach them to back off. I'm still working on the targeting system though.
          I was thinking a laser system that would burn almost through the tread on both front tires. Not enough to cause a blowout, just a persistant slow leak that can't be repaired. Evil, I know, but a guy can dream, can't he?
          Bob

          Bad decisions make good stories.

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          • Russianwolf
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            • Jan 2004
            • 3152
            • Martinsburg, WV, USA.
            • One of them there Toy saws

            #35
            Originally posted by Tim Clark
            "...a guy comes flying up behind me in his Ford Expedition and starts tailgating me. At this time I was just starting to pass a Semi."

            I'ld complete the pass (might even speed up a tad) and move over asap to let the Ford by. Happens everyday. If the other guy gets bent out of shape over it well, you're letting him go and he'll be outta sight in a few anyway.

            Enjoy the rest of the trip.
            I completed the pass, allowed about 1 and a half car lengths then started to go over. BUT Mr. Ford cut the Semi off in the space I allowed for a safe merge and sped past me while flipping me off.

            I do not speed up. Period. I do not allow an unsafe driver to affect my driving. If they get bent out of shape, that's their problem not mine.
            Mike
            Lakota's Dad

            If at first you don't succeed, deny you were trying in the first place.

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            • JR
              The Full Monte
              • Feb 2004
              • 5636
              • Eugene, OR
              • BT3000

              #36
              Originally posted by Russianwolf
              I completed the pass, allowed about 1 and a half car lengths then started to go over. BUT Mr. Ford cut the Semi off in the space I allowed for a safe merge and sped past me while flipping me off.
              Now I feel the need to confess.

              A couple of Saturdays ago, returning from an early morning run to Santa Barbara, I got into a bit of a beef. The guy in front of me in the fast lane, proceeding at a modestly liesurely pace, has control of the fast lane. When the road ahead clears he waits longer than the 1-1/2 lengths to get in the right lane, a maneuver I was surprised to see at all, given his tactics up this point. By this time I've signalled and have started to move into the right lane.

              Well, I just signalled again, moved into the left lane and planned to go on with my day. As I passed Mr. Liesurely I noticed he was signing me with the universal one-finger salute. Much braking, hand waving and purple faced shouting ensued. After a minute of two of that we went on at our separate paces.

              I don't know what happened in his car, but I got an extended lecture on driving, common courtesy, consideration for passengers, etc from LOML.

              An otherwise perfect Saturday morning drive along the beach ruined. sigh.

              JR
              JR

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              • gjat
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                • Nov 2005
                • 685
                • Valrico (Tampa), Florida.
                • BT3100

                #37
                Originally posted by Russianwolf
                I completed the pass, allowed about 1 and a half car lengths then started to go over. BUT Mr. Ford cut the Semi off in the space I allowed for a safe merge and sped past me while flipping me off.

                I do not speed up. Period. I do not allow an unsafe driver to affect my driving. If they get bent out of shape, that's their problem not mine.
                I've seen dead people who were killed by speeders trying to get around the 'left lane Louie' types who won't speed up (a bit) or move over. We already know these speeders are 'roids. No need to enrage them and contribute to them hurting or killing someone else. I'd speed up a bit (depending on the speed I was going. I don't do more than 10 over.) and put my directional on to let him know I seem him and am making an effort. People like that are 'turds' and you don't want one hanging on your butt. It's always better to jiggle the handle and flush so they disappear from my sight. When I'm driving with my wife and I get a 'turd' behind me, I'll say, 'Hang on a minute, I've got to flush' while I speed up a bit. She isn't amused, but I am.
                I do let asses affect my driving. I DON'T let them affect my attitude.

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                • jdschulteis
                  Established Member
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 139
                  • Muskego, Wisconsin, USA.
                  • Ryobi BT3100

                  #38
                  Originally posted by gjat
                  [. . .]I'd speed up a bit (depending on the speed I was going. I don't do more than 10 over.) and put my directional on to let him know I seem him and am making an effort.[. . .]
                  I have settled on much the same method after abandoning the foolish tactics of my youth (tapping the brake, or matching speeds with a slow-moving vehicle in the right lane).

                  The best part of letting them get by is the priceless feeling you get when passing the tailgater, who got five minutes ahead of you before getting pulled over.
                  Jerry

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                  • sacherjj
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 813
                    • Indianapolis, IN, USA.
                    • BT3100-1

                    #39
                    Originally posted by jdschulteis
                    The best part of letting them get by is the priceless feeling you get when passing the tailgater, who got five minutes ahead of you before getting pulled over.
                    Actually, I like those guys. Other than heavy traffic, there is usually enough time to see a vehicle approaching and get over to let them pass. When I'm doing 5 over and they blow past at 20+ over me, I grin. "Flush'emouts" Thats what I call them, as I sometimes bump up to 10 over. Flushing out the speed traps. But it is very satisfying when one of two things happens. First, when a person who is being a bumper sticker (even though you are passing at 5-10 over the vehicles on the right) gets pulled over for speeding. Second, when someone being a tailgater and aggressive jerk can't seem to understand that the lights are timed for 35 mph and if you do that speed, like the rest of us, you never have to stop or start again. It amazes me when some people are drag racing for the stop lights and they don't notice that all of the 40 cars around them haven't touched the brake nor adjusted their gas for 20 blocks. Somehow (magically) the lights just turn green at the right time.
                    Last edited by sacherjj; 03-09-2006, 06:47 AM.
                    Joe Sacher

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                    • gjat
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 685
                      • Valrico (Tampa), Florida.
                      • BT3100

                      #40
                      Originally posted by sacherjj
                      Second, when someone being a tailgater and aggressive jerk can't seem to understand that the lights are timed for 35 mph and if you do that speed, like the rest of us, you never have to stop or start again. It amazes me when some people are drag racing for the stop lights and they don't notice that all of the 40 cars around them haven't touched the brake nor adjusted their gas for 20 blocks. Somehow (magically) the lights just turn green at the right time.
                      Good observation. Traffic Signals are 'coordinated' to maximize flow and minimize time spent sitting at the light. This is done by various types of vehicle sensors (microwave, video, inductive loops) and intersections communicate via radio, fiber, copper, etc. Some systems are more sophisticated and are 'real time'. Others are time based and are developed by traffic studies.
                      With all of them, the key is to travel near the speed limit, slower traffic keep right, get into the proper lane ahead of time, don't impede others. So if you are going to make a left, get into the left lane early and enter the 'dedicated turn lane' as soon as you come to the striping. (In other words, don't slam on the brakes and cross two lanes when you get 100' from the intersection.) The same is true for the right lane turns. No need to creep up on it at 35mph when it's a 45mph zone.

                      Sadly, Traffic Engineers assume people really know their State's traffic book when they get their license. Reality is the average person hasn't read the book since they were 15 and believe since they haven't killed anyone in the last 30 years, they are an excellent driver. The truth is, people cause many accidents without striking another car or being struck themselves. These people attribute the accident to the lack of skill on the others, never realizing their lack of skills contributed to the incident and combined with the other's lack of skill, the kid on the sidewalk just got ran over.

                      Go with the flow and let the other's flow. Use all the lanes provided at the proper time and proper speed and give the amazing technology a chance to work for you. Remember, technology helped get us to the moon but the astronauts didn't need technology to keep from crapping in their space suit.

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                      • jziegler
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 1149
                        • Salem, NJ, USA.
                        • Ryobi BT3100

                        #41
                        Originally posted by gjat
                        Good observation. Traffic Signals are 'coordinated' to maximize flow and minimize time spent sitting at the light. This is done by various types of vehicle sensors (microwave, video, inductive loops) and intersections communicate via radio, fiber, copper, etc. Some systems are more sophisticated and are 'real time'. Others are time based and are developed by traffic studies.
                        You should say that intelligently setup signals are done like this. It seems like in Delaware, signals are timed to make sure that you spend as much time as possible at a red light. One way that I sometimes go home (usually if I want to stop at Woodcraft), there are several lights that you can easily sit at for 2 full light cycles before crossing the intersection, and the cycle is about 5 minutes long. I keep on cursing the engineers that timed some of these lights. I'm usually not in that much of a hurry, but I hate sitting at a light for that long. Another major road seems to be timed that if you hit one light red, then start up and go the speed limit, you will hit every light red.

                        -Jim

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                        • tribalwind
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 847
                          • long island, ny.

                          #42
                          Originally posted by JR
                          I don't know what happened in his car, but I got an extended lecture on driving, common courtesy, consideration for passengers, etc from LOML.
                          An otherwise perfect Saturday morning drive along the beach ruined. sigh.

                          JR
                          You tellin me you dont keep a blindfold in the glove box for the significant other? god i learned that ages ago lol...
                          come to think of it i think my road test teacher graded me on that one!

                          mom and the gf are the worst backseat drivers for me , even worse is they sit up front when doing it !
                          namaste, matthew http://www.tribalwind.com

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                          • tfischer
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                            • Jul 2003
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                            • Plymouth (Minneapolis), MN, USA.
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                            #43
                            Originally posted by tribalwind
                            mom and the gf are the worst backseat drivers for me , even worse is they sit up front when doing it !
                            My mom's a terrible backseat driver, LOML isn't so bad. But I'm horrible -- if I'm not driving I freak out at the slightest little thing...

                            -Tim

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