Insulation Dilemma - Need Help

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  • cabinetman
    Gone but not Forgotten RIP
    • Jun 2006
    • 15216
    • So. Florida
    • Delta

    #1

    Insulation Dilemma - Need Help

    We are in the process of re doing the ceilings in the front half of the house. The roof is a flat deck and the rafters are 2x6, 16"OC. The present situation is that inside there is a layer of 5/8" plasterboard and then a 12" square, 1/2" T&G ceiling tile.

    Our choices are first: To leave the existing two layers and add a third layer of 12" ceiling tile (new), OR-

    Tear down the two layers, install R-19 fiberglass batts and add one layer of ceiling tile (new).

    Which would offer the best insulation?
  • big tim
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 546
    • Scarborough, Toronto,Canada
    • SawStop PCS

    #2
    I think the R-factor of a fibreboard type celing tile is probably less than 2. I'm sure you would get better insulation with the fibreglass bats.
    One other thing to consider though is fire protection. Not much protection out of a layer if fibreboard style ceiling tiles.
    My 2cw

    Tim
    Sometimes my mind wanders. It's always come back though......sofar!

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    • Jeffrey Schronce
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2005
      • 3822
      • York, PA, USA.
      • 22124

      #3
      Tear down 2 layers, install R-19 minimum rough in drywall and layer of ceilng tile. There is no comparison to modern insulation versus gypsum/lathe/plaster applications.

      I have no idea where you are located thus not sure if you should move to a higher R factor which will fit in 6" stud. R-21 will fit and if you can find R-23 it will fit as well.

      What type of roof surfacing do you have on the other side?

      Remember, that part or all of your remodel may be eligible for Federal Tax Savings under IRS provisions.

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      • LCHIEN
        Super Moderator
        • Dec 2002
        • 22012
        • Katy, TX, USA.
        • BT3000 vintage 1999

        #4
        Originally posted by Jeffrey Schronce
        Tear down 2 layers, install R-19 minimum rough in drywall and layer of ceilng tile. There is no comparison to modern insulation versus gypsum/lathe/plaster applications.

        I have no idea where you are located thus not sure if you should move to a higher R factor which will fit in 6" stud. R-21 will fit and if you can find R-23 it will fit as well.

        What type of roof surfacing do you have on the other side?

        Remember, that part or all of your remodel may be eligible for Federal Tax Savings under IRS provisions.
        I don't really know but Jeff's ideas all sound a lot better than no insulation except for the fiberboard and gypsum...
        Loring in Katy, TX USA
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        • Hellrazor
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          • Dec 2003
          • 2091
          • Abyss, PA
          • Ridgid R4512

          #5
          Will the use of R19 allow any air flow to help cool the flat roof? Improper insulation can cause premature failure of the roofing.

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          • steve-norrell
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2006
            • 1001
            • The Great Land - Alaska
            • BT3100-1

            #6
            Up here in God's country, adequate air flow above the insulation is critical unless you want to deal with all kinds of condensation and ice problems. We just went through a remodel that changed air flow in the attic and did result in some problems. Air circulation above the insulation really is critical.

            There are probably similar issues in Florida and it may be better to have air movement and ventilation above the ceiling than it is to have it stuffed with insulation. Over-insulation may create more problems than it solves. I would consult a reliable heating / cooling contractor or builder on local practice.

            Good luck, Steve

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            • Russianwolf
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2004
              • 3152
              • Martinsburg, WV, USA.
              • One of them there Toy saws

              #7
              Guys, he's in Southern Florida!!!!!

              R19 is plenty unless you are having a problem keeping the AC in. But I would go with Fiber as insulation helps keep heat out of your house. you will probably see a drop in your AC electric.
              Mike
              Lakota's Dad

              If at first you don't succeed, deny you were trying in the first place.

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              • Hellrazor
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2003
                • 2091
                • Abyss, PA
                • Ridgid R4512

                #8
                He still needs to ensure proper air flow above the insulation.

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