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Don't mean to pry by asking these questions or imply anything, I am just trying to get my router info files and BT3 FAQ correct... I don't have info on the 21829 route table other than a general visualization and I was wondering what model PC router doesn't have the standard 3-hole pattern or if the 21829 pattern is not standard.
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Loring in Katy, TX USA
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I still don't see why not get the router accessory kit for the vintage ryobi router plate.
The router I have is the old American made one, 6902 I believe? With the 1001 base? I can check but I think that's it. Maybe I'm an idiot, but I'm pretty sure the holes don't line up.Last edited by Fried Chicken; 06-20-2024, 11:14 AM.Comment
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yeah, the PC 690 series set the standard hole pattern. So maybe Craftsman put a non-standard weird hole pattern in the 21829 table thats why I asked for the hole-to hole measure on that just to add to my BT3 FAQ
In any case, yeah, if you want to use a BT3 rip fence you still need the router accessory kit. And you will likely have to drill the plate if its not predrilled (some were and some were not). I was just thinking if the 3-hole pattern in the 21829 table fit that would save having to drill a plate.Last edited by LCHIEN; 06-20-2024, 11:39 AM.Loring in Katy, TX USA
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So does anyone have these for sale or that they no longer need?- BT3000 router plate that's smooth,
- Router accessory kit
- Extra dedicated fence for mounting router parts to
- Wrenches for removing the blade
- Riving knife/other safety pieces
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Although it's rather unfortunate because the Craftsman top has a miter gauge slot which is actually pretty usefulComment
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I have two 690 PC routers (had 3 at one time) along with 4 or 5 more routers. I gave one away to a son-in-law a good while ago. If I remember correctly, I did fit a 690 to the BT3000 and those three holes back around 2001-2002 or so. (I was living in Japan at the time.) And I know the limits of a 9x12 building for all the tools and having to pull them out to work. I personally didn't like using the router on the saw as it didn't serve its purpose for me. It may for you and if it works, go for it!
Most projects that I undertake use two or three bits and I hate having to re-adjust the height settings after swapping one out on a table, so I ended up making a router table with two routers mounted. I keep one with the main bit set and use the other for swapping out as the need arises.
Every woodworker on a budget or limited space have to do what works for them.
I purchased extra blade wrenches a couple of years ago (on eBay) just to have them around and put them in a visible but not easily accessible place - above the door up high near the ceiling. I always know where my extra ones are but being inaccessible, therefore I hunt for the main ones before climbing up to get the spares- and it works for me!
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I have a Router accessory kit. Pretty much brand new unused but 20+ years old.
It even has the jig saw mounting plate as shown in the eBay listing and picture below. And has the original manual.
I doubt I am going to use it now or in the future.
The photo below is from eBay, not mine.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/13509868589...M%26aid%3D7770 08%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D267533 %26meid%3Dcb5df6500328416290b6f63a79f2f7bb%26pid%3 D101959%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26itm%3D135098685898%26 pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D4375194%26algv%3DRecently ViewedItemsV2Mobile%26brand%3DRyobi&_trksi d=p4 375194.c101959.m146925&_trkparms=parentrq% 3A37 ddb68c1900a570a46e2badffffefba%7Cpageci%3A58391ccb-2f58-11ef-b1d2-be83fc4acb57%7Ciid%3A1%7Cvlpname%3Avlp_homepage
I can probably bring myself to part with it. I'd like to keep one of the mounting plates.
I'd be interested in keeping the rear table lock bracket but you probably need that.
I saw a pair of the brackets on Amazon for $17. So I could get one.
Weight is about 6 pounds to ship. A lot of metal parts.
Look for a PM from me.
Loring in Katy, TX USA
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I have the BT3000 with the router accessory kit with the Ryobi 3 base router mounted in it. I've been using it for years, even professionally for working with plastics for custom fitted yacht electronics installations. I've thought about replacing the Ryobi in the router table with my Hitachi, but really don't have any reason to do so. To me, there's no point in using more horsepower to do anything on a router table, it just burns bits and wood. It's usually best practice to begin a large cut in incremental steps, anyway. I would recommend leaving the Ryobi in the table and saving the PC for handheld work.
There is always some kind of niggling inadequacy in a router table setup and no over-engineered router lift or table overcomes them all. I've wanted an above the table height adjustment for years, just "because", but from what I've seen from way too many YouTube videos; the end result is the router must be clamped from below the table anyway, and then the height has to be test cut, and then usually adjusted, not to mention the access for collet wrench control difficulties.
The important thing is to space the accessory table where there's plenty of access.
I think the only good thing about the router fence accessory is that they're ready made brackets with mounting designed in. In reality, they won't be at 90° in practice and can mess up an operation if doing vertical work.. The two piece concept looks good in the brochure, but it's a huge pain to set them up quickly. I mounted the brackets on a stout full length fence and then fitted blocks on the side where it clamps to the Ryobi fence to enforce perpendicularity. Then I added a sacrificial fence to that. I bought enough T-nuts from T-nuts.com back in the day to leave several in place on the fences and rails. I have the extended fence rail, and it just stays on the Ryobi fence. An important tool for critical work is a fence micro adjuster, which I thank Loring for every time I use it. He's the person that inspired mine by pointing out that a full revolution of a 10-32 screw is a 32nd of an inch!
I've recently replaced the table top inserts with 3/4" MDO, as the 3/4" mahogany plywood inserts I had for 29 years, had warped. There was a miter slot in the predecessor, but I never used it.
Also handy is a miter slot that fits on top of the rip fence to hold featherboards for routing or thin plywood sawing applications.Comment
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D_Meister makes a good point, if the Ryobi currently mounted is working, why bother mounting the PC at the expense of a new table and custom mount.
Once mounted to a table, most routers lose most of their unique features and just become a motor that needs to be raised and lowered. -
This looks fantastic. Why have two tools if one will do.
I've had qualms about the router lift, but mostly the high cost has kept me disinterested. -
Lifts - A poor mans router lift: https://www.amazon.com/Laboratory-Al...9-catcorr&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/ZOENHOU-Platf...6-catcorr&th=1
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My Ryobi tri-base is a 1/2" collett, with a 1/4" insert adapter. A 1/2" in the router table is a must-have, so I would go yard-saleing right away. I wonder about your PC, though. Are there other threaded mounting holes under the phenolic skid plate that may match up? If you mount the PC, you'll need a plunge router with a 1/2" collett to replace it
I bought my Hitachi plunge at the North West Corner Woodworker's silent auction and picnic last year, and I'm really happy with it. I also have a Hitachi fixed base that's great. Then, there's 4 more......
Whoever said you can't have too many clamps probably said the same thing about routers.Comment
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It's time for me to revisit this;
I got overwhelmed last time and then left the country lol (it was very nice)
I need to remake my list:- BT3000 Flat Top Router Wing/Table
- Router & Jigsaw Kit (4950301 or 4950300 which one?)
- Wrenches to remove table saw blade
- My existing clamps are bad for the tables, there are aftermarket options?
- Still need a riving knife
- The extra fence for the router mounting kit that I can leave with the table saw
- A compatible router that accepts 1/2" and 1/4" collets (ryobi OEM or vintage sears craftsman?)
I'm making this list for my reference and if someone could provide input on where to get these, it would be much appreciated!Last edited by Fried Chicken; 09-27-2024, 04:28 PM.Comment
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I have no comments on this I haven't made before.
I have a 4950300 router kit, unused, complete, which is the one with the two plates, one plate for router and one plate for jig saw mounting.
I am willing to sell it with the caveat that I will keep one plate.
The left Plate is slotted for the jigsaw. The right plate has the hole set for one of the Ryobi routers.
Either plate can be drilled and used for other routers.
I would keep one plate for my use. And sell the rest of the kit for $100 plus $12 shipping. You are basically getting the 4950301 kit with one router plate, no jigsaw plate.
You can choose which plate you get if you prefer the other.
Loring in Katy, TX USA
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