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  • LarryG
    The Full Monte
    • May 2004
    • 6693
    • Off The Back
    • Powermatic PM2000, BT3100-1

    #16
    Highland Hardware has the big funnel-like hood that Russ mentions.

    I didn't say this yesterday, but IMO you need both a "backstop" and a bottom tray. However, where most of the "backstop" systems I've seen come up short is in trying to suck the dust in horizontally. I think the better system is to have a backstop that serves mainly to keep the dust corralled as well as possible and deflect it downward, with a healthy assist from gravity, to a sloping bottom tray with the DC hose connected to it.

    It's still not going to be as good as the dust collection on, say, a router table. Miter saws are a tough critter to tame, DC-wise.
    Larry

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    • ironhat
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2004
      • 2553
      • Chambersburg, PA (South-central).
      • Ridgid 3650 (can I still play here?)

      #17
      Tom, I think another big question, besides the indirect nature of this set-up, is the ability of some of the smaller DCs (like the HF) to have the cfm capacity to flare out to 10" and still have sufficint air movement. My 4" intake to the capture box of my RAS draws in the direct stream of dust but, as evidenced by the mess around the saw, it isn't picking up the scatter. Granted, a CMS blade (not a SCMS) is stationary and should send the dust more directly to the hose. I just don't see a 10" opening being a good choice for these DCs. I'd like to be made wrong!
      Blessings,
      Chiz

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      • jhart
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2004
        • 1715
        • Minneapolis, MN, USA.
        • BT3100

        #18
        I have my MS on a small stand. I attached a funnel type hood like the one Larry mentions, to a piece of scrape 2 X2 and then a couple of screws thru the 2 X 2 to the particle board table top. I use the HF collector. I also taped off the outlet on the MS for the collection bag.
        Works OK, not great, but better than just the saw's dust collection bag.
        Joe
        "All things are difficult before they are easy"

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        • radhak
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2006
          • 3061
          • Miramar, FL
          • Right Tilt 3HP Unisaw

          #19
          I cannot believe the solution given at Airhand.com would work satisfactorily. For one, after a few months of usage, dust under the saw (thru the slot for the blade, and 'deflected' otherwise) is much less (by far) than what I see behind it.

          I feel Larry hits it right - the best approach should be a backstop to just corral and funnel the dust to a dust port that comes up vertically.

          I am not even sure I'd want to worry about a bottom tray right under the saw. My saw's base is not even fully open, just a thin slot on the lower end too.

          Of course, I have yet to try something yet - I still analyzing to check what's the best way .

          edit : Found this Rousseau Down Drafter on Amazon that seems to go along what i just said (ie what Larry said); but I'd be da**ed if I'm gonnna pay a C-note for that contraption. I am thinking, should it not be possible to make one out of a rubbermaid container? Can i cut one with a jigsaw?
          Last edited by radhak; 02-27-2008, 07:40 AM.
          It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
          - Aristotle

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          • bfrikken
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2005
            • 727
            • Michigan, USA.
            • BT-3100

            #20
            Crap, I was just in HF during my lunch break. Thought I would check out the Lathe that's on sale for 199. While there, I figured I'd poke around and try and find this kit. Now I've looked dozens of times and they've never had it in stock. Of course, they have one while I'm there, so I get someone to help me out. Their print ad shows it at 42.99. Theyscan it and it comes up at 42.99. Is there the same kit with another number possibly? I Know they do that for a lot of other stuff. I may just print the page and take it in on my way home from work. Shoot, I almost bought it at 42.99 to make sure I got it since I've never seen it in person...

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            • JR
              The Full Monte
              • Feb 2004
              • 5636
              • Eugene, OR
              • BT3000

              #21
              Originally posted by bfrikken
              Theyscan it and it comes up at 42.99. Is there the same kit with another number possibly?
              There was another number at one time, replaced by this one. It could be old stock, I guess.

              In any case, notice the -3VGA suffix. In the old days this is how they'd do their their sale prices - just add a special suffix to the main number and link it to the sale price. Its' probably best to print out the linked page and take it with you. They'll probably honor the price.

              JR
              JR

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              • BigguyZ
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2006
                • 1818
                • Minneapolis, MN
                • Craftsman, older type w/ cast iron top

                #22
                bfrikken-

                The online price will be different than the retail store's price. HF doesn't automatically match the retail price to the online price. However, if you bring a web printout of the lower price, they'll match it.

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                • Tom Slick
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2005
                  • 2913
                  • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
                  • sears BT3 clone

                  #23
                  This hood works really well. no DC needed. it is pricey though.
                  http://www.fastcap.com/products.aspx?id=3802
                  http://www.amazon.com/FastCap-Chopsh.../dp/B000VS4K7K
                  Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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                  • azw
                    Forum Newbie
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 6

                    #24
                    Wow! I appreciate all the thoughtful responses. I like the flexibility of the two devices for sale on Amazon (the Rousseau Down Drafter and the FastCap Chopshop Saw Hood). It shouldn't be too hard to develop a homemade version like them. In fact, Radhak's Rubbermaid tub idea would probably really easy to do. But does Rubbermaid sell tubs in yellow?

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                    • bfrikken
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 727
                      • Michigan, USA.
                      • BT-3100

                      #25
                      Originally posted by JR
                      There was another number at one time, replaced by this one. It could be old stock, I guess.

                      In any case, notice the -3VGA suffix. In the old days this is how they'd do their their sale prices - just add a special suffix to the main number and link it to the sale price. Its' probably best to print out the linked page and take it with you. They'll probably honor the price.

                      JR
                      I went after work, print out in hand. Bought the kit (even with wife approval).

                      Thanks

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