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  • atgcpaul
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2003
    • 4055
    • Maryland
    • Grizzly 1023SLX

    #1

    Resetting wireless router. Workaround?

    Every day or every few days, I have to do a hard reset on my Netgear
    wireless router--unplug it/plug it back in. This is because of three things:

    1) Router is no longer trasmitting SSID and laptops don't see it

    OR

    2) Router is transmitting but not allowing laptops to connect

    OR

    3) Laptops are connecting to router but there's no Internet connection


    I've heard this could be because the cable company routinely sends "bullets"
    down the line to knock off cable thieves and this disrupts the connection.
    I never have to reset my cable modem, though. Is there a router patch or
    something that automatically resets the router at certain times so I don't have to?

    Thanks, Paul
  • LCHIEN
    Super Moderator
    • Dec 2002
    • 22054
    • Katy, TX, USA.
    • BT3000 vintage 1999

    #2
    Are you still able to connect using the wired ports? (try using an ethernet cable and disable the wireless temporarily on your laptop). My last wireless router developed an intermittent Wireless, you could see the laptops connecting and losing connection every minute or so. But the wired portion worked fine. So it was probably a fault in the wireless hardware portion.

    If its not a hardware problem like mine, you might check for a firmware update from www.netgear.com, this can be downloaded to your computer and then downloaded into your router.
    If your router is new you can contact Netgear and see if their support people can help.

    If your router is older maybe its time to replace it. I don't seem to be able to get wireless routers to work more than 2 years regardless of who makes them... they get flakey on the wireless portion. In about 5 years been through 2 Linksys and one D-link, now on a Netgear. They all worked perfectly to start...
    Last edited by LCHIEN; 08-05-2009, 06:13 AM.
    Loring in Katy, TX USA
    If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
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    • LarryG
      The Full Monte
      • May 2004
      • 6693
      • Off The Back
      • Powermatic PM2000, BT3100-1

      #3
      We had a similar situation with a wired router here at the office. Unable to find another "cure," we put it on a lamp timer, to turn the power off for about 15 minutes an hour or so before everyone reported in the morning. That worked for a couple years and then the problem returned. All through this I periodically installed firmware updates, to no avail.

      A few months ago we switched ISPs, going from DSL to cable, and now have a completely different setup that has so far worked flawlessly. But time will tell. I think there may be something to Loring's theory that routers need to be replaced every couple-few years.
      Larry

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      • crokett
        The Full Monte
        • Jan 2003
        • 10627
        • Mebane, NC, USA.
        • Ryobi BT3000

        #4
        I also have a Netgear router and have similar problems but there is no pattern to when mine will show up. Also most of the time it is the router stops responding to connection requests. I don't have mine configured to broadcast the SSID. I bought the Netgear because I had an older Netgear that worked for 6 years until it quit.
        David

        The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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        • radhak
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2006
          • 3061
          • Miramar, FL
          • Right Tilt 3HP Unisaw

          #5
          I had this exact problem with my earlier Netgear router, and unfortunately I never found the solution. Then I got to upgrade to a newer version of the router (my BIL moved, and gave me his), and the problem just went away.

          So how old is your router?
          It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
          - Aristotle

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          • tseavoy
            Established Member
            • May 2009
            • 200
            • Nordland, Marrowstone Island, Washington
            • Older 9 inch Rockwell Delta (1960?)

            #6
            I think the bearings in your router are going bad.

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            • crokett
              The Full Monte
              • Jan 2003
              • 10627
              • Mebane, NC, USA.
              • Ryobi BT3000

              #7
              I was also thinking of getting rid of the router and using a WAP tied to my Linux box to do the routing for me.
              David

              The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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              • dbhost
                Slow and steady
                • Apr 2008
                • 9551
                • League City, Texas
                • Ryobi BT3100

                #8
                I'm old tech. I don't trust Wireless for anything. Drills, or routers... My network is fully cabled and proud of it. I have RJ-45 ports in each room except the bathrooms. So you can rest assured folks, I never check BT3Central on the commode... I don't know about you WiFi guys though...
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                • pelligrini
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4217
                  • Fort Worth, TX
                  • Craftsman 21829

                  #9
                  We had a linksys that exhibited similar problems at our office. It worked well for the first 9 or so months. It's an older 902.11-B. It got down to every couple days I'd have to power cycle it. It's collecting dust now, and should just be tossed.

                  We upgraded to a Cisco, which I really hate messing with. Setup and configuration is about the most confusing thing I've ever had to do. I think that cisco does all their stuff that way to ensure a constant stream of large training fees.
                  Erik

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                  • crokett
                    The Full Monte
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 10627
                    • Mebane, NC, USA.
                    • Ryobi BT3000

                    #10
                    Originally posted by dbhost
                    So you can rest assured folks, I never check BT3Central on the commode... I don't know about you WiFi guys though...
                    Just once! I swear!
                    David

                    The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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                    • cgallery
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 4503
                      • Milwaukee, WI
                      • BT3K

                      #11
                      Originally posted by tseavoy
                      I think the bearings in your router are going bad.
                      There is some truth in that humor.

                      I've had a substantial number of Netgear routers just wear out. They work fine for a couple of years, start getting flaky, and as soon as they show signs of dropping connections, etc., I simply replace them.

                      Routers w/ wireless are especially prone to these types of failures. I don't know if they drive 'em too hard, or what. I do know, from reading at the DD-WRT forums, that you have to be careful in setting wireless output on routers you install DD-WRT on, otherwise you can substantially shorten the lifespan of the unit.

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                      • tfischer
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 2349
                        • Plymouth (Minneapolis), MN, USA.
                        • BT3100

                        #12
                        I had the exact same problem with my Netgear. It was maddening...

                        I finally replaced it with a Trendnet about 5 months ago and it's never been "rebooted" even once -- works flawlessly.

                        My wife had a Netgear card for her old laptop and it would cause the whole laptop to freeze up every few days. I'll never buy another Netgear product again.

                        -Tim

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                        • Rand
                          Established Member
                          • May 2005
                          • 492
                          • Vancouver, WA, USA.

                          #13
                          Interestingly enough I had an old Belkin router that would do the same thing (lockups requiring restart etc.).

                          When it died 2 years ago I replaced it with a Netgear and it's run flawlessly ever since...
                          Rand
                          "If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like your thumb."

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                          • cgallery
                            Veteran Member
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 4503
                            • Milwaukee, WI
                            • BT3K

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Rand
                            Interestingly enough I had an old Belkin router that would do the same thing (lockups requiring restart etc.).

                            When it died 2 years ago I replaced it with a Netgear and it's run flawlessly ever since...
                            I think the problem isn't so brand-specific. For example, there are a billion routers out there made with Broadcom chipsets. And for the most part, they share many idiosyncrasies.

                            Same goes for network cards. Netgear, for example, used a lot of DEC Tulip chipsets. But so did about twenty other manufacturers. Many of the Netgear FA310TX cards ultimately started acting flaky. But so did many other brands of cards that used the same DEC chip.

                            Fujitsu had gobs and gobs of hard drives go bad not because of anything Fujitsu did, but because the Cirrus Logic chipsets on those drives were poorly manufacturered (package problem) and the chips failed.

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                            • mpc
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 1018
                              • Cypress, CA, USA.
                              • BT3000 orig 13amp model

                              #15
                              Hmmm... I know of a couple year old Buffalo wireless that is flakey too - needing full power-off-on hard resets and then it'll work fine for a day or two. It's a Broadcom chipset too.

                              I hope the laptop chipsets are better since that's what I have in my old Fujitsu. Doesn't really matter; I rarely use that laptop as it is, let alone use the wireless on it. It might be dead now for all I know.

                              mpc

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