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  • dbhost
    Slow and steady
    • Apr 2008
    • 9463
    • League City, Texas
    • Ryobi BT3100

    #16
    Originally posted by Hellrazor
    Microsoft can't count?

    Lets see..

    Windows 3.1
    Windows 95
    Windows ME <- Ugh, that was the WORST version ever
    Windows 98
    Windows NT
    Windows XP
    Windows Vista <- Bloatware
    Boy you missed a few there...

    Windows 1.0 (A windowing shell for DOS)
    Microsoft BOB, A.K.A. Windows 2.0
    Windows 3.0
    Windows 3.1 (The first Windows most people remember).
    Windows 3.11 A.K.A. Windows for Workgroups.
    Windows NT 3.51
    Windows 95
    Windows NT 4.0 Workstation
    Windows NT 4.0 Server
    Windows 95 OSR/2 (This was an OEM Service release that actually worked okay)
    Windows 98
    Windows 98-B Kind of like OSR/2.
    Windows ME (Millenium Edition) Still technically Windows 9x (95/98) but with some NT stuff thrown in there to hose things up a LOT...
    Windows 2000 Professional
    Windows 2000 Server
    Windows 2000 Advanced Server
    Windows 2000 Server Small Business Edition (Your entire Active Directory in one box, it sucked worse than ME).
    Windows XP Home
    Windows XP Professional
    Windows XP Media Center Edition
    Windows XP Tablet Edition
    Windows XP Education Edition (Shipped to a lot of Asian and African nations).
    Windows 2003 Server (and like versions akin to Windows 2000 Server)
    Windows Vista and its many variants, AKA Windows ME Second Edition.
    Windows 2008 Server and it's many variants.
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    • Hellrazor
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2003
      • 2091
      • Abyss, PA
      • Ridgid R4512

      #17
      Originally posted by dbhost
      Boy you missed a few there...
      I was just naming the more popular ones in order to realize "7" isn't the proper number. I have no idea how they dreamed the 7 up. I think they should just name it after the year it was released.

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      • JSUPreston
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 1189
        • Montgomery, AL.
        • Delta 36-979 w/Biesemyere fence kit making it a 36-982. Previous saw was BT3100-1.

        #18
        Originally posted by dbhost
        Boy you missed a few there...
        Microsoft BOB, A.K.A. Windows 2.0
        Actually, Microsoft BOB was a shell similar to the Packard Bell Explorer. It required Win 3.1 or greater if I remember correctly. Windows 2.0 was somewhat of a cross between the DOS Shell known as Windows 1.0 and Windows 3.x. BOB could run on Windows 95, but very few did, from what I understand.
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        • LinuxRandal
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2005
          • 4890
          • Independence, MO, USA.
          • bt3100

          #19
          Originally posted by dbhost
          The nice thing about Linux is that
          no anti virus is needed.

          Thank you Linus Torvalds!

          You are going to catch a virus accept or deny?
          blah blah. Yep, not ever going to swap Windoze into my machines for darn good reason...

          I don't entirely agree with that. There are distro's that run you in a mode with too many permissions to begin with, and/or don't give you the admin password (stupid design, unless they are built for your internal organization, by you the admin). Also there are at least two theoretical (lab tested) viruses, but there are still fewer users, so fewer people looking to exploit the machine.

          That said, I personally believe one should still have an antivirus program running on a Linux box that is acting as a Samba server. You could capture any virus sent to it, before it getting spread out in an organization, on a machine that could safely deal with it.
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          • dbhost
            Slow and steady
            • Apr 2008
            • 9463
            • League City, Texas
            • Ryobi BT3100

            #20
            Originally posted by LinuxRandal
            I don't entirely agree with that. There are distro's that run you in a mode with too many permissions to begin with, and/or don't give you the admin password (stupid design, unless they are built for your internal organization, by you the admin). Also there are at least two theoretical (lab tested) viruses, but there are still fewer users, so fewer people looking to exploit the machine.

            That said, I personally believe one should still have an antivirus program running on a Linux box that is acting as a Samba server. You could capture any virus sent to it, before it getting spread out in an organization, on a machine that could safely deal with it.
            Oh we aren't talking Ubuntu... Ubuntu is nice enough for Grandma, but when they release a distribution with a publicly available root password, I won't use it... And yes, Antivirus should be run as a courtesy to Windows users. Sure there are fewer users on Linux than Windows... I likes it that way... Sure there are theoretical viruses for Linux, that require an admin be insanely stupid to get them to run, and SELinux running in an excessively permissive mode.
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            • dbhost
              Slow and steady
              • Apr 2008
              • 9463
              • League City, Texas
              • Ryobi BT3100

              #21
              Originally posted by JSUPreston
              Actually, Microsoft BOB was a shell similar to the Packard Bell Explorer. It required Win 3.1 or greater if I remember correctly. Windows 2.0 was somewhat of a cross between the DOS Shell known as Windows 1.0 and Windows 3.x. BOB could run on Windows 95, but very few did, from what I understand.
              Did I really include BOB there?

              Sorry, Must have been tequila talking...
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              • LinuxRandal
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2005
                • 4890
                • Independence, MO, USA.
                • bt3100

                #22
                Originally posted by dbhost
                Oh we aren't talking Ubuntu... Ubuntu is nice enough for Grandma, but when they release a distribution with a publicly available root password, I won't use it... And yes, Antivirus should be run as a courtesy to Windows users. Sure there are fewer users on Linux than Windows... I likes it that way... Sure there are theoretical viruses for Linux, that require an admin be insanely stupid to get them to run, and SELinux running in an excessively permissive mode.

                Never looked at Ubuntu, but if they release the root password, then one should be able to change it.
                One of the distro's I was thinking about, I haven't seen in a couple of years. It was a CD based install (not dvd), that you didn't get the root password, it asked to set you up as a user. I believe its intent was for an organization, but it was found out in the wild.
                She couldn't tell the difference between the escape pod, and the bathroom. We had to go back for her.........................Twice.

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