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  • poolhound
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 3195
    • Phoenix, AZ
    • BT3100

    #31
    Looking good Bade. Dang thats a lot of spindles!
    Jon

    Phoenix AZ - It's a dry heat
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    • twistsol
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2002
      • 2893
      • Cottage Grove, MN, USA.
      • Ridgid R4512, 2x ShopSmith Mark V 520, 1951 Shopsmith 10ER

      #32
      This is coming along nicely. Truly beautiful work.
      Chr's
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      A moral man does it.

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      • leehljp
        Just me
        • Dec 2002
        • 8429
        • Tunica, MS
        • BT3000/3100

        #33
        Originally posted by capncarl
        Blade,
        I've found that masking to prevent glue Bo-Bo's takes way more time, and invariably some glue gets through. Staining first doesn't take that much time to just wipe on and wipe off and any glue that gets on the stain simply wipes off and the glue doesn't effect the stain color. After final assembly a final stain wipe finishes it up.
        Capncarl
        Capn,

        for some reason my kids like "paint" so I use cheaper wood that will be painted. HOWEVER when I am doing wood finishes, I have also learned to stain each piece first and then assemble.

        I did run into trouble back in the early 2000's when I made a small hutch for LOML. For some reason, stain showed all to be the same color but when the same wood with the same stain was used in two different orientations i.e. rail and stile, they showed up as two different colors or tones or what ever! Not all woods do that but some woods do.

        It is kind of like chatoyance in some woods in making pens - it only shows in certain light.

        As to staining after the fact - that the glue spot shows its ugly head mostly when a construction project has been perfect!
        Hank Lee

        Experience is what you get when you don't get what you wanted!

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        • BadeMillsap
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 868
          • Bulverde, Texas, USA.
          • Grizzly G1023SL

          #34
          This is the headboard after staining (gel coat) and gluing. I took the advice of others and did the stain before assembly... I see some advantage but I'm not sure which way I like best ... I think I may glue up the footboard before stain just to compare the experience. I used "space balls" in the mortises of the spindles and no glue to allow for expansion. I think that is going to work fine. It's getting there. Yeah the color is MUCH DARKER than would be my preference but it's what the customer (daughter) requested ... sigh ...
          "Like an old desperado, I paint the town beige ..." REK
          Bade Millsap
          Bulverde, Texas
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          • leehljp
            Just me
            • Dec 2002
            • 8429
            • Tunica, MS
            • BT3000/3100

            #35
            Beautifully done! It will be appreciated and handed down. My daughters generally like the things I make for them to be darker (except the white bunk beds) and LOML always gets on to me for making things too dark. I tell her what I make for our kids is for them and that is how they want it.
            Hank Lee

            Experience is what you get when you don't get what you wanted!

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            • poolhound
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              • Mar 2006
              • 3195
              • Phoenix, AZ
              • BT3100

              #36
              That looks really nice Bade. I have never used space balls are they between the spindles or under them? Given the construction I am not sure which way this would move if at all, its seems that the grain of the surrounding frame opposes each other and should limit any movement.
              Jon

              Phoenix AZ - It's a dry heat
              ________________________________

              We all make mistakes and I should know I've made enough of them
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              • BadeMillsap
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2005
                • 868
                • Bulverde, Texas, USA.
                • Grizzly G1023SL

                #37
                I put the space balls under one end of each spindle to eliminate rattling since I didn't glue them and to allow vertical expansion... It seems to work ok

                Via Tapatalk-- Bade

                "Like an old desperado, I paint the town beige ..." REK
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                • atgcpaul
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 4055
                  • Maryland
                  • Grizzly 1023SLX

                  #38
                  Very nice.

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