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  • jussi
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 2162

    Need some wiring help. Calling on EE (Loring)?

    I bought a sliding gate opener and separately an Infared sensor. The opener installed pretty easily and works great but I can't figure out the infrared. I can't even get it to turn on. It seemed easy but I must be doing something completely wrong. Below is the schedmatic for the Infrared and gate opener. Can someone please explain how to wire this. I tried so many configurations and still got nothing. Initially when I first opened the gate opener panel there was a wire that directly connected the IR terminal to the Gnd. I tried with it on and off. Attached is also the current state of how I wired it. Assuming I didn't get a defective infrared (how can I test for this?) or the gate opener is putting out the necessary power (still waiting on a replacement multi-meter), what am I doing wrong?

    sorry for the messy instructions. It got stepped on a few times
    I reject your reality and substitute my own.
  • woodturner
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 2047
    • Western Pennsylvania
    • General, Sears 21829, BT3100

    #2
    Connect:
    GND to COM
    BROWN to 24 VDC
    BLUE to COM
    GRAY TO IR
    WHITE TO COM
    BLACK is not connected
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    Electrical Engineer by day, Woodworker by night

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    • jussi
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 2162

      #3
      Thank you Thank you Thank you. Tried it out as soon as I got home and it finally turned on. I spent a few hours this weekend trying to figure this out. Trying different configurations. Didn't realize you had to put the other power wire (blue) to com as well. For the electronically illiterate, like me, why is that?
      I reject your reality and substitute my own.

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      • woodturner
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 2047
        • Western Pennsylvania
        • General, Sears 21829, BT3100

        #4
        Originally posted by jussi
        Thank you Thank you Thank you. Tried it out as soon as I got home and it finally turned on. I spent a few hours this weekend trying to figure this out. Trying different configurations. Didn't realize you had to put the other power wire (blue) to com as well. For the electronically illiterate, like me, why is that?
        Brown and blue are power to the device. With the blue disconnected, it had the +24 V but not a return path, so the device was not powered and would not operate. For electricity to flow, a complete circuit is required, it needs an "out" and an "in".

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        Electrical Engineer by day, Woodworker by night

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        • LCHIEN
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          • Dec 2002
          • 20913
          • Katy, TX, USA.
          • BT3000 vintage 1999

          #5
          sorry late to the party - glad you got it fixed.
          Loring in Katy, TX USA
          If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
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          • jussi
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            • Jan 2007
            • 2162

            #6
            Is there any reason I couldn’t add a second sensor. I currently have it set low so my dog would trigger it if she walked passed but realized my truck won’t trigger it till my wheels get psssed. I was thinking of adding a second one higher up.
            I reject your reality and substitute my own.

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            • woodturner
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2008
              • 2047
              • Western Pennsylvania
              • General, Sears 21829, BT3100

              #7
              Originally posted by jussi
              Is there any reason I couldn’t add a second sensor. I currently have it set low so my dog would trigger it if she walked passed but realized my truck won’t trigger it till my wheels get psssed. I was thinking of adding a second one higher up.
              You can add a second sensor, wire it is series:

              (keep the GND to COM - only need the one connection at the board)

              On the second sensor:
              BROWN to 24 VDC
              BLUE to COM

              Disconnect the WHITE TO COM on the first sensor, connect the white wire from the first sensor to the GRAY wire on the second sensor, connect WHITE TO COM on the second sensor
              BLACK is not connected on both sensors
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              Electrical Engineer by day, Woodworker by night

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              • jussi
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 2162

                #8
                Thanks Again. Is there a benefit in wiring in series as apposed to parallel?

                Originally posted by woodturner

                You can add a second sensor, wire it is series:

                (keep the GND to COM - only need the one connection at the board)

                On the second sensor:
                BROWN to 24 VDC
                BLUE to COM

                Disconnect the WHITE TO COM on the first sensor, connect the white wire from the first sensor to the GRAY wire on the second sensor, connect WHITE TO COM on the second sensor
                BLACK is not connected on both sensors
                I reject your reality and substitute my own.

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                • woodturner
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 2047
                  • Western Pennsylvania
                  • General, Sears 21829, BT3100

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jussi
                  Thanks Again. Is there a benefit in wiring in series as apposed to parallel?


                  Yes - it works.

                  The sensor has a normally closed switch. When an object is in the way, the switch opens and cuts power to the garage door opener. If you wired the two sensors in parallel, BOTH sensors would have to be blocked for the opener to stop. By wiring them in series, the opener stops if EITHER sensor is blocked.
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                  Electrical Engineer by day, Woodworker by night

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                  • jussi
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 2162

                    #10
                    Well yes yes that would certainly be a good reason. Thanks for the explanation.

                    Originally posted by woodturner

                    Yes - it works.
                    I reject your reality and substitute my own.

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